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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
Agreed. I only mentioned meteorology to point out that I am not qualified to argue the case one way or the other.
You still don't get it so I will try to say it again. Global climate change is not a meteorological issue, it is a climatological issue. You could be a freaking expert in meteorology and still not grasp climatology. SO let em give you a pointer. Don't mention meteorology when discussing global climate change. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
So you just brought up Al Gore to score some sort of cheap point?
What the hell does your original comment about him have anything to do with anything? Please explain the context of how your comment and implication has anything to do with anything. Edited by Theodoric, : Spelling Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Taq Member Posts: 9972 Joined: Member Rating: 5.5 |
But, if cutting human CO2 emissions doesn't have any effect then none of that will change but many others besides would be affected unnecessarily. So we shouldn't try and fix the situation just because there is a chance it might not work? Humans increase carbon dioxide levels above that any level seen in the ice cores which go back hundreds of thousands of years. Carbon dioxide absorbs heat. We are now seeing global temperatures rise in lock step with carbon dioxide levels. Increases in temperature will lead to catastrophic results for millions, even billions of people. If these are not valid, concrete reasons to reduce CO2 levels then what would be?
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DBlevins Member (Idle past 3775 days) Posts: 652 From: Puyallup, WA. Joined: |
But, if cutting human CO2 emissions doesn't have any effect then none of that will change but many others besides would be affected unnecessarily. We know that the Antarctic Glaciers did not exist when CO2 was above 450ppm. We also believe that we are rapidly approaching the tipping point (or have already passed it) when the CO2 levels in the atmosphere precipitate the uncontrollable release of greenhouse gases trapped during the last ice age, which it has been estimated could raise the CO2 ppm to roughly 800-1000 ppm. If you don't believe that that would be catastrophic to the viability of our species as well as countless others, then you frankly don't understand the issues. The point being, that if we do not, "right now!", take charge of our CO2 inputs, then we can expect that it won't be just the grain farmers in Australia crying and gnashing our teeth. It will be ALL of us.
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DBlevins Member (Idle past 3775 days) Posts: 652 From: Puyallup, WA. Joined: |
As I said to jar, combatting CO2 emmisions will cost people their livelihood, and I'd hate to see that done if it isn't of any use. Not combatting CO2 emmisions will cost people and especially their children their livelihood. Not combatting CO2 emmsions will also cost lives.
Also, as I pointed out to jar if it isn't CO2 emmisions it is something else, and maybe we will miss out on what we might have been able to do with whatever else is causing the problem. If it was something else causing climate change we would have likely had a clue to what it was by now. You would be wrong to think that climate scientists are focused solely on CO2 emmisions as to the cause of global warming. Researchers have studied and continue to study more aspects related to climate change than CO2. But, the simple fact remains that we have well documented sources that show that rising CO2 levels, caused by humans, is the largest factor in global warming.
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Taq Member Posts: 9972 Joined: Member Rating: 5.5 |
To put this another way . . .
What if we do away with obesity in the human population only to find that heart disease does not decrease? All of those McDonald's employees will have lost their job for nothing. Therefore, people should do nothing to curb their weight and eat all the fatty foods they want. Does that make sense to anybody? Edited by Taq, : No reason given.
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Does to me. Gimme good old ribs and soul food any day. Long life ain't a bargain if it is tasteless.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Taq Member Posts: 9972 Joined: Member Rating: 5.5 |
Does to me. Gimme good old ribs and soul food any day. Long life ain't a bargain if it is tasteless. Ironically, many people make the same argument for gas guzzling muscle cars and SUV's.
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Well, never understood SUV's, kinda like sushi, belongs as a boat anchor just like sushi belongs on a hook. But good old muscle cars, that's a whole different story.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
This morning I received a text from my right wing friend.
quote: What is it with deniers and their belief that their local weather conditions somehow reflect the global weather. Also, why can they not get it through their thick skulls that global climate change does not mean temperature increase everywhere, all the time? Do you think I will get anything from him when the temp is abnormally high? Currently it is -22.4 here. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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frako Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
one of those deniers should have been in Slovenia a few days back we had +15 C for a weak normal for this time of the year would be -5 to -38.6C (the record form my country mesured not fare from me) i do not know if any January was this warm. The temperatures flell yesterday though to arround -1 to +3
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Taq Member Posts: 9972 Joined: Member Rating: 5.5 |
What is it with deniers and their belief that their local weather conditions somehow reflect the global weather. Human psychology. Our psyche is set up to place more importance on the personal here and now than in long term trends or global trends.
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