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Blue Jay Member (Idle past 2698 days) Posts: 2843 From: You couldn't pronounce it with your mouthparts Joined: |
Hi, Larni.
Larni writes: In fact 'knowing' would do the exact opposite. If you can out think the problem you don't have as big a selective force for physical evolution. And the opposite is also true: if you have successful physical adaptations, you don't have as big a selective force to evolve the ability to think through the problem. -Bluejay (a.k.a. Mantis, Thylacosmilus) Darwin loves you.
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Blue Jay Member (Idle past 2698 days) Posts: 2843 From: You couldn't pronounce it with your mouthparts Joined: |
Hi, Zi Ko.
zi ko writes: Empathy! it is the key word to this remark. Mother antilopewill feel this need. Next offspring will have to be faster. Given this, we would predict that younger siblings will be fitter than their older siblings, because empathy will allow the mother to subconsciously improve her later offspring in relation to her earlier offspring. I'm quite certain that this prediction will fail. -Bluejay (a.k.a. Mantis, Thylacosmilus) Darwin loves you.
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Taq Member Posts: 9973 Joined: Member Rating: 5.7 |
Given this, we would predict that younger siblings will be fitter than their older siblings, because empathy will allow the mother to subconsciously improve her later offspring in relation to her earlier offspring. I'm quite certain that this prediction will fail. And it does fail. The rate of Down Syndrome and other chromosomal irregularities increase with the age of the parent.
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Taq Member Posts: 9973 Joined: Member Rating: 5.7 |
Surely yoy don't expect me to answer right now all the questions we are faced by my theory. Your theory should at least be able to explain the facts we do have and be able to make different predictions than that made by the current theory of evolution. For example, your theory should be able to explain why chimps and humans differ in some genes more than others, and be able to do so better than the current theory. So what should we see when comparing the human and chimps genomes, and what predictions does your theory make that the current theory does not? On top of that, you have two classic experiments to deal with. These experiments are: 1. Luria-Delbruck Fluctuation Experiment: In this experiment the authors discovered that the mutations needed for bacteriophage resistance occur in the absence of bacteriophage. Mutations leading to bacteriophage resistance were not a response to the death of their fellow bacteria as your theory would suggest. 2. Lederbergs' Plate Replica Experiment: This experiment used a different methodology to demonstrate the very same thing that was demonstrated in the Luria-Delbruck fluctuation experiment. They found that mutations conferring antibiotic resistance occur in the absence of antibiotic, not as a response to the presence of antibiotics. I would be more than happy to discuss the particulars of these experiments if you are unclear as to how they demonstrate that mutations are random with respect to fitness. On top of that, we observe that harmful mutations do indeed occur. According to your theory, what is the purpose of dwarfism (i.e. achondroplasia) or hemophilia? We know that these phenotypes can and do occur through spontaneous mutations, and we even know the genes that they occur in. So what is the nervous system trying to adapt to in these cases? You also need to explain why neutral mutations occur, mutations that produce no change in any organs or phenotypes. The problem I see with your theory is that it doesn't explain the facts we do have. That is a big problem for any theory.
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zi ko Member (Idle past 3620 days) Posts: 578 Joined: |
Thank you for help.I am not well used to PC's.
About EMPATHY and turtles:mother turtle has implanted this instinct to egg's DNA gradually thousand or million years ago. I looked at the link.My only possible answer is: maybe all these spescies have their own communicating system.
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My only possible answer is: maybe all these spescies have their own communicating system. Or maybe you're wrong You ever consider that as a possible answer?
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zi ko Member (Idle past 3620 days) Posts: 578 Joined: |
I think i am misunderstood. My theory does not preclude randomness in mutations.Neural system mostly gives general directions.
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zi ko Member (Idle past 3620 days) Posts: 578 Joined: |
Catholic Scientist writes: My only possible answer is: maybe all these spescies have their own communicating system. Or maybe you're wrong You ever consider that as a possible answer? ' Of I may be wrong. But we all have to try to find logical answers. Somebody may find abetter one later."
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Catholic Scientist writes: My only possible answer is: maybe all these spescies have their own communicating system.
Or maybe you're wrong You ever consider that as a possible answer? ' Of I may be wrong. But we all have to try to find logical answers. Somebody may find abetter one later." You posit that evolution employs some kind of communication between parent and offspring while totally failing to consider that the majority of species have no means of this communication. The logical response to this is not "well maybe they do have the communications". The logical response is "oh yeah, it looks like I was wrong".
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zi ko Member (Idle past 3620 days) Posts: 578 Joined: |
Bluejay writes: Hi, Zi Ko.
zi ko writes: Empathy! it is the key word to this remark. Mother antilopewill feel this need. Next offspring will have to be faster. Given this, we would predict that younger siblings will be fitter than their older siblings, because empathy will allow the mother to subconsciously improve her later offspring in relation to her earlier offspring. I'm quite certain that this prediction will fail. I am surprised! I mean hundreds or thousands generations later.
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zi ko Member (Idle past 3620 days) Posts: 578 Joined: |
Catholic Scientist writes:
Catholic Scientist writes: My only possible answer is: maybe all these spescies have their own communicating system.
Or maybe you're wrong You ever consider that as a possible answer? ' Of I may be wrong. But we all have to try to find logical answers. Somebody may find abetter one later." You posit that evolution employs some kind of communication between parent and offspring while totally failing to consider that the majority of species have no means of this communication. My answer was hypothetical. Would you like me to say that God's Will is the link between these spescies? Or there is no any communication at all and blind chance is the origin to their creation and evolution?The logical response to this is not "well maybe they do have the communications". The logical response is "oh yeah, it looks like I was wrong".
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Blue Jay Member (Idle past 2698 days) Posts: 2843 From: You couldn't pronounce it with your mouthparts Joined: |
Hi, Zi Ko.
zi ko writes: Mother antilopewill feel this need. Next offspring will have to be faster.
Bluejay writes: Given this, we would predict that younger siblings will be fitter than their older siblings... I mean hundreds or thousands generations later. 我有一點困惑。 The mother will feel the need for faster offspring, and this feeling will translate through the rest of her progeny until, hundreds or thousands of generations later, it makes the next offspring faster? What is your mechanism for the inheritance of these empathic states? How does what the mother feels upon seeing her offspring killed translate into evolution many generations later? -Bluejay (a.k.a. Mantis, Thylacosmilus) Darwin loves you.
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Taq Member Posts: 9973 Joined: Member Rating: 5.7 |
Neural system mostly gives general directions. What are these general directions, how are they communicated, and what are they communicated to? Edited by Taq, : No reason given.
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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
My answer was hypothetical. Would you like me to say that God's Will is the link between these spescies? I would like you to say what you mean and mean what you say. Why hide God's Will behind esoteric language?
Or there is no any communication at all and blind chance is the origin to their creation and evolution? Bzzzt. Common creationist misunderstanding of evolution.... "Blind chance" The chance aspect of mutation is only part of the theory, the other part is the selection process that makes the whole thing no longer "blind".
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Parasomnium Member Posts: 2224 Joined: |
zi ko writes: About EMPATHY and turtles:mother turtle has implanted this instinct to egg's DNA gradually thousand or million years ago. But how did she know that this is what she needed to communicate? She was never there to watch her offspring make the dangerous trip from the nest to the water, remember?
I looked at the link.My only possible answer is: maybe all these spescies have their own communicating system. Maybe the name "neurogenic" theory is a bit of a misnomer then? "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin.
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