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bluescat48
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Message 76 of 194 (603800)
02-07-2011 5:36 PM
Reply to: Message 74 by goldenlightArchangel
02-07-2011 3:17 PM


Re: What differentiates human prototypes from alleged ancestry
Lets turn your point around. If Humans were not reproducing 30000 years ago how is that we, humans are here today? If a species doesn't reproduce only one thing can happen,it becomes extinct. by your point, the 6.6 billion humans alive today don't exist, because we can't confirm 2 skeletons are father & son.


There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008


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Message 77 of 194 (603885)
02-08-2011 4:25 PM
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02-07-2011 5:36 PM


All that has a beginning –originated by the Earth– has an end
bluescat48 writes:


If Humans were not reproducing 30000 years ago how is that we, humans are here today?

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The above question implies the belief that the origin or beginning of Human life would be solely somewhere in the past.
All that has a beginning, produced by the Earth, has an end;

If the beginning of Human life was solely somewhere in the past, or if the beginning would have taken place ocasionally,

then a point of origin would be just a place with nutrient properties called Earth,
which means that Human beings themselves would be a personified and most evolved extension of what the Earth is;

However, if the point of origin would be just a place called Earth
then the nutrient properties originated and produced by the Earth itself would give you life rather than just keep you alive.

If the Earth gave you life, rather than just keeping alive, then you would live more than 120 years.

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The fact is that there are nutrient properties that give you life, rather than just keeping you alive, which are not produced by the Earth itself.

These nutrient properties that give you life are produced by the trees that have a firm trunk and branches, like every strong tree.

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If the origin of the Human body has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that instruction was given for one to eat solely fruits; and only the fruits from compatible trees;

then why do many men of the evolution theory immediately reject the fact that eating solely fruits reduces the intragastric acidity and gives life indefinitely ?

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quote:
From the dust – The nutrients of regular food come from the dust of the ground. You become what you eat. After 49 years old the aging process accelerates because it is not possible to profit from eating the nutrient properties which the regular food is made of since the Human body was made of the same properties from the dust of the ground.

From the solid tree – Nutrients of the compatible fruits do not come from the dust of the ground. They are filtered essences produced by the solid tree. The extension of her trunk is made up of millions of little bitty tubes that do filter and separate the nutrients out. On this, the fruit of the solid tree is a property given exclusively by the tree.


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Message 78 of 194 (603886)
02-08-2011 4:32 PM
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02-08-2011 4:25 PM


Re: All that has a beginning –originated by the Earth– has an end
I guess I will go with my gut reaction. You are nuts.

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bluescat48
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Message 79 of 194 (603912)
02-08-2011 11:50 PM
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02-08-2011 4:25 PM


Re: All that has a beginning –originated by the Earth– has an end
How about answering the question?

If Humans were not reproducing 30000 years ago how is that we, humans are here today?

Considering that humans Homo sapiens have been on this planet at least 100000 years.

Edited by bluescat48, : added line.


There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008


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goldenlightArchangel
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Message 80 of 194 (604014)
02-09-2011 3:39 PM
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02-08-2011 11:50 PM


There never was an answer without you seeing
bluescat48 writes:

If Humans were not reproducing 30000 years ago how is that we, humans are here today?

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It is not the type of answer a person gets from other persons experience
so that no one will need to give credit or work up a belief in a theory.

Significance - There is never an answer without you seeing and experiencing it for yourself

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There are clues that might help with the answer, a person might ask him-herself about the first instruction of Genesis [as originally written] which is about eating solely fruits and only the compatible ones.

If a person does what the first instruction clears up for one to do, would (s)he still experience the aging process and die the death of old age?

If a person does it and still dies of old age then even the ancient writings of Genesis as originally written are telling you lies.

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quote:
An electric generator does not produce enough power to keep itself operating, even so the consumption of regular food when you’re older will never be enough to restore the initial amount of calcium, proteins and hormones that are released from the brain in order for the production of the gastric juice necessary to digest regular food or dead flesh.

When one feeds the Human body solely with fruits; and only fruits from the compatible trees, then a lot of hormones, calcium and proteins do not have to be constantly released from the brain in order for the production of gastric juice that is necessary to digest dead flesh or regular food.


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Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : update

Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : update


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bluescat48
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Message 81 of 194 (604037)
02-09-2011 6:49 PM
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02-09-2011 3:39 PM


Re: There never was an answer without you seeing
Quit evading and answer the question?

A simple yes or no would suffice.

Edited by bluescat48, : abe line


There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008


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Message 82 of 194 (604039)
02-09-2011 7:01 PM
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02-09-2011 3:39 PM


Re: There never was an answer without you seeing
If a person does it and still dies of old age then even the ancient writings of Genesis as originally written are telling you lies.

Which the writings most assuredly are.

Where do you get protein if you eat only fruit? How do you live past three months of age with no protein?

WTF?


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Message 83 of 194 (604040)
02-09-2011 7:04 PM
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02-09-2011 7:01 PM


Re: There never was an answer without you seeing
Coragyps writes:

If a person does it and still dies of old age then even the ancient writings of Genesis as originally written are telling you lies.

Which the writings most assuredly are.

Where do you get protein if you eat only fruit? How do you live past three months of age with no protein?

WTF?

That's why a mother's breasts give fruit juice.


Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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goldenlightArchangel
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Message 84 of 194 (604374)
02-11-2011 3:26 PM
Reply to: Message 82 by Coragyps
02-09-2011 7:01 PM


There never was an answer without you seeing it
Coragyps writes:

If a person does it and still dies of old age then even the ancient writings of Genesis as originally written are telling you lies.

Which the writings most assuredly are.

Of course the versions of bibles do lie in almost all things,
because of the lying pen of the scribes who have kept the lie: the generic term god or elohiym

Let's not mix that with the ancient writings of Genesis as originally written,

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This might help with the answer to the question,
'If Humans were not reproducing 30000 years ago how is that humans are here today?'

The following is a sample of what can be verified with science; ascertained truth of the facts,
in regards to the original manuscripts of Genesis,

- Authenticity and validity of the first instruction of Genesis
- Evidences of the existence of the tree of life

Become experienced on a return to immortality by eating solely fruits, and only fruits from the compatible trees

Estimate time for reduction of intragastric acidity to 50% less - 3 and a half weeks
Approximate time to change the stability of the nervous systemn - 49 days

quote:
Is immortality attainable?

Immortality is simply stopping from dying by stopping from eating incompatible food. In regards to death by old age, a person is already immortal and will not die of old age as long as the digestive system will not continue to produce the type of intragastric acidity necessary to consume incompatible foods.


Perfection and Synchrony between Purpose and Design – The fruits from the compatible solid trees were designed and made for this purpose: to give permanence to what was designed and made for them, the Human body.

For if [regular] food was made for the Human body, then the Human body would have been made for food, and it would not be brought to naught.

Modified fragment from versio vulgata, ‘Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats; but both are brought to nothing’

In the New Living Translation, the original words become even more eclipsed and a parenthesis exposes the part that was added,

You say, ‘Food was made for the stomach, and the stomach for food.' (This is true, though someday….)’. – English Standard Version substitutes the parenthesis with a dash.

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Coragyps writes:

Where do you get protein if you eat only fruit? How do you live past three months of age with no protein?

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Today scientists explain this fact rather simply – it is common knowledge that Noni (Morinda Citrifolia) is rich in proteins. -- [http://wildeuropetrips.com]

These proteins have various traits and destination: some feed the cell and deliver building material, others – like damnacanthal – have the ability to repair genetic code, yet others transport valuable nutritive elements to the cell. Natural Noni fruit juice supplies our organism with the ideal substances mixture aiding and driving biochemical process.

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Important elements found in the fruit of the Tree of life (Morinda Citrifolia),
http://www.noni.com.pa/german Verwendung:

Die Frucht ist sehr bekannt in Panama und anderen Ländern.
Analysen haben gezeigt, dass sie sehr reich ist an Grundbestandteilen für die menschliche Ernährung, wie:

Fasern (Fiber)
Proteinen (Proteins)
Eisen (Iron)
Vitamin C
Kalzium (Calcium)
Zink (Zinc)

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The Tree of life in real time

The fruit from the tree of life, Morinda Citrifolia, is the only tree that has these two virtues:

- Gives her fruit every month; 12 times a year
- Her leaves are for health in extense areas – [health of the nations]

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Polinesian Noni contains many transport proteins, the so called chelates, which are equipped with a ‘PIN code’ opening the door to all natural living cells, including the ones in our organism. Human being is a part of nature and so easily accepts and absorbs natural elements with transport aminoacids bonds (chelates) that can open even

‘the most opposing and dogged locks in the cells.’

Our organism does not like absorbing pasteurised, dried in heat, or heated products. In the same way, it doesn’t like synthetics – chemical forms of vitamins, minerals, antibiotics or other drugs which are not related to chelate

(the transport protein) – and absorbs them badly. In order to assimilate them in minor amounts, it has to make use of its own reserves of proteins and energy, weakening the immunity at the same time. – the side effects can even lead to the organism’s poisoning.

Owing to the large quantities of vegetal proteins, Noni juice is capable of transporting and implementing many substances into a cell, including the synthetic ones. Between the Noni proteins and other substances, there appears synergism of action – better absorbance of healing substances is achieved which in turn effects in several – times better assimilation. Diabetics can be an example here: the amount of insulin is lowered until its total elimination (depending on the stage of the disease).

Polinesian Noni can be applied together with medications – there are no contraindications. It is clear then that Noni does not contradict the role of modern medicine – just the opposite – it has been proved that in the cases of cancer, the treatment results were much better when the activity of noni was joined with reduced doses of standard chemotherapy. Thanks to Polinesian Noni we can avoid unpleasant side-effects of drugs, lower the doses or even stop the intake. It often happens that after specialist examination, the doctor lowers the dose of adminitered medication even to eliminate it totally. Noni reinforces the effectiveness of the activity of medications, supplements, and herbs.

Let us suppose that for any reason the ‘door-opening mechanism’ in a cell does not work well – the lock is jammed.

Vitamins, trace elements, glucose, and proteins cannot penetrate into the cell’s inside. On the other hand, the waste products cannot leave the cells. What can happen if we keep storing the ragbags, which need to be taken out, in the hall of our house? Can such a situation last for weeks, months or even years? Surely, there won’t be any fresh air to breath with. Just the contrary – there will be more mice, rats, and other worms preying on the waste and propagating in a flash.

What happens in such a case in our organism’s cell?

The cell is weak and starving, metabolism does not work properly, and it is not strong enough to oppose the thousands of animalcules living on it. Its inefficiency automatically influences other cells of the system and the whole process of mutual cells reinforcement is more and more disrupted. The bioenergetic field of the pathogenic animalcules negativelly influences the field of the healthy cells disrupting their proper energy. This is the beginning of the destruction process of cells and tissues until it leads to serious pathogenic changes in the organism.

All nutritive elements will get to our cells owing to chelates and the ‘key’ proteins. They will feed them, provide them with energy from the biologically active and living Noni fruit (which guarantees the lyophilisation process), ‘clean and air’ them. -- [http://wildeuropetrips.com]

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Message 85 of 194 (604376)
02-11-2011 4:02 PM
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02-11-2011 3:26 PM


Re: There never was an answer without you seeing it
Spam made from fruit? Who woulda thunk it possible?!

I'm sure that Morinda citrifolia grows beautifully outside the tropics, CD7.

Added by edit: Wikipedia says "The fruit of the Noni, sometimes also called "starvation fruit," has a strong smell and bitter taste which often relegates it to the level of a famine food."

Edited by Coragyps, : No reason given.


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bluescat48
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Message 86 of 194 (604393)
02-11-2011 6:02 PM
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02-11-2011 3:26 PM


Re: There never was an answer without you seeing it
Let's not mix that with the ancient writings of Genesis as originally written,

That would be something in that there is no originally written Genesis. The stories predate writings. Who came up with the stories is unknown. How many times things were added or subtracted from the original stories is unknown. What is known as Genesis was compiled from theses stories between ~950 BCE & ~500 BCE.

And you still haven't answered the question.

Edited by bluescat48, : added line


There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008


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Message 87 of 194 (604445)
02-12-2011 7:32 AM
Reply to: Message 80 by goldenlightArchangel
02-09-2011 3:39 PM


Re: There never was an answer without you seeing
quote:
An electric generator does not produce enough power to keep itself operating, even so the consumption of regular food when you’re older will never be enough to restore the initial amount of calcium, proteins and hormones that are released from the brain in order for the production of the gastric juice necessary to digest regular food or dead flesh.

When one feeds the Human body solely with fruits; and only fruits from the compatible trees, then a lot of hormones, calcium and proteins do not have to be constantly released from the brain in order for the production of gastric juice that is necessary to digest dead flesh or regular food.


Wtf "An electric generator does not produce enough power to keep itself operating" Verry true power gets lost to heat friction .... so it cant produce enough to keep itself running. "even so the consumption of regular food when you’re older will never be enough to restore the initial amount of calcium" so um how did that calcium get there somehow your mother got enough to give you all this extra calcium but cant get enoug for hereself or you cant get enough for yourself now that your out of the womb.

Electric generator powering itself is a closed system no extra energy gets in energy gets lost to heat..... soon not enough energy is left to run the generator.

Humans do not eat their own fecies they eat other things that initialy got their "power" from the sun so not a closed system so why the hell is this quote comparring the 2.

"When one feeds the Human body solely with fruits; and only fruits from the compatible trees, then a lot of hormones, calcium and proteins do not have to be constantly released from the brain in order for the production of gastric juice that is necessary to digest dead flesh or regular food"

lol and what about the other stuff you need to live that you CANNOT get from fruits?


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Message 88 of 194 (604446)
02-12-2011 9:09 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by Coyote
01-25-2011 12:20 AM


Re: Here is some evidence for you...
Coyote writes:

.........we have fully human fossils going back well over 100,000 years.

Can you tell us something about these fossils? Were they skulls, a tooth, a hip or what? Where were they found, etc?

Were there a lot of them and were they found consistently in strata dating progressively down from 100,000 or were there a few isolated specimens?


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The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

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Message 89 of 194 (604455)
02-12-2011 10:50 AM
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02-12-2011 9:09 AM


Re: Here is some evidence for you...
Can you tell us something about these fossils? Were they skulls, a tooth, a hip or what? Where were they found, etc?

Were there a lot of them and were they found consistently in strata dating progressively down from 100,000 or were there a few isolated specimens?

Here are some basics on the Herto skulls, about 160,000 years old:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1295624

http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/herto_skulls.php

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/...1_earliesthuman_2.html

There are a lot more examples out there, but learn a little about these first.


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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Message 90 of 194 (604625)
02-13-2011 4:45 PM


Scientists claim that the Flying Spaghetti Monster will someday evolve (and other atheist fairy-tales for adults)

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