God's Place In Evolution

What we have found is during the development of the infant brain they go through stages where imprinting is very important. If children are not exposed to human social contact and language they miss this opportunity for brain development. It is the interaction between the environment and our highly specialized brain that makes all the difference. From the previous generations, the same place that we get our knowledge. For the same reason that we are not writing these posts in old english. Have you raised a puppy or kitten? If you had you would know that this is false. Are you totally unaware that children invent imaginary friends? Not obvious at all given the fact that humans will invent brand new languages, such as the deaf population spoken of in the one of the posts above. And yet you reject the thousands of gods that have been spoken of in many cultures. Why is that? Why don't you accept the idea that Zeus hurls lightning bolts?

The difference being that we can detect the percentage of oxygen in a gaseous atmosphere. Even more, we can create oxygen free atmospheres and see if that person does survive.What are the analogous supernatural experiments that we can do?Edited by Taq, : No reason given.

Since we are asking for logical arguments backed by evidence for said creator then it would appear that you are right. It is nice to see that you do realize that you are preaching to the choir. Perhaps you could explain this?

I don't believe in God because there is no evidence for the existence of God.Also, citing mythology in support of the existence of God really isn't helping your case. I guess it all depends on how you define "good shape". It wasn't until the last century that infant mortality dipped below 30%. I could go on and on about the diseases that modern medicine has cured through science, not the bible. However, I think it will fall on deaf ears.Edited by Taq, : No reason given.

Then what was your point as it relates to the topic? Based on what evidence? How does that evidence relate to the topic at hand?Should we also be talking about the mistake that Achilles' mother made when she forgot to dip is heel in the River Styx?

Could you please spell out this logic for us? Simply asserting that something is logical does not make it logical.

Just as a friendly piece of advice, you need to learn the difference between a well reasoned and logical argument and an assertion. It is not enough to say that an argument is logical and based on reason. You need to actually show the logic and reasoning.For an argument to work people have to agree with the premises. If the premises are under dispute then the argument stops there. Also, the premises have to lead to the conclusion, not be an exact copy of the conclusion. For example, if one of your premises is "If we assume there is a creator . . ." and you are trying to conclude "Therefore, there is a creator" your argument is obviously circular.For this thread in particular, one of the premises seems to be that humans can not invent language without someone first teaching them a language. This premise is under dispute. You must show that humans can not invent a language of their own, otherwise your argument has failed.

Now please show the logic that leads us to the conclusion that this intelligence was produced by a supernatural deity.

Many of these flood legends only mention a local flood. Here is the Arcadian flood legend:"Dardanus, first king of Arcadia, was driven from his land by a great flood which submerged the lowlands, rendering them unfit for cultivation. The people retreated to the mountains, but they soon decided that the land left was not enough to support them all. Some stayed with Dimas, son of Dardanus, as their king; Dardanus led the rest to the island of Samothrace."
Flood Stories from Around the WorldThat same site has many flood legends listed, many of which differ greatly from the Noah account.Also, just look at the flooding events in the last 20 years that would have nearly wiped out ancient cultures. For example, the tsunami in Asia a few years back. Just imagine how devastating that would have been to any culture anywhere around the Indian Ocean. That surely would have sparked a flood legend, wouldn't it? And yet, it was not a global flood. The same could be said of the current flooding in Australia and the devastating lahars produced by multiple volcanoes in the last 50 years.The reason so many cultures have flood legends is that almost every culture probably has suffered a flood somewhere in it's history, but this in no way indicates a global flood. Actually, that isn't true. Many flood legends lack these features as seen here:Flood Stories from Around the WorldEdited by Taq, : No reason given.

Which is somewhat similar to the ongoing debate surrounding the Loch Ness monster.

Yes, they are linked by sharing a common ancestral culture, such as the Genesis myth being stolen from the much older Mesopotamian myth found in the Enuma Elish.Also, common features such as finding high ground or riding out the flood in a floating container are kind of no brainers. It's not like people are going to try and survive a flood by going to a low lying area and tying themselves to a rock. Is it any surprise that the people who survive in these flood legends either find high ground or find something to float in?There are also cultures with no flood legends. How do you explain that?So your argument pretty much boils down to this. All cultures across the world have flood legends, except the ones that don't. Also, all of these flood legends are nearly the same, except for the ones that are completely different. Does that sound like good evidence?

All of which is falsified by the actual physical evidence which does not indicate a global flood. There are many threads on this topic and I urge you to seek them out. We are straying a long way from the topic in this thread so further comments on the flood would probably be better served in those other threads that do focus on a global flood.Edited by Taq, : No reason given.

Incredulity is not a logical argument.Again, you claimed that it is logical that a supernatural deity created our intelligence. Please spell out the logic. So far the only logic you have spelled out is an argument based your incredulity which is an illogical argument.

No, it shouldn't. Evidence always trumps stories.

The map is not the territory. The Earth itself shows no record of a recent global flood. You know, that planet where this flood supposedly occurred? This has been known since the early 1800's. You are nearly 200 years behind the curve.