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LudvanB Inactive Member |
quote: Indeed that may well be the case. Interpretation,which varies from individuals to individuals...like say for instance someone like myself who would interpret a vegetable eating lion as evidence that some animals species can produce some intriguing and unique mutants,while someone else,who shall remain nameless,would interpret said lion as the proof that 4500 years ago,big cats were all herbivores... [This message has been edited by LudvanB, 03-02-2002]
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LudvanB Inactive Member |
quote: Oh i did,when i was younger,i couldn't get enough biology. And you know what biology has taught me? That the Lion is a carnivore,that it is born to be a carnivore and that it starves to death if it runs out of meat and that there is no fact in science that would lend credence to the hypothesis that lions or their ancestors ever grazed the fields side by side with the antilopes and the gazelles and that ONE MUTANT LION living on vegetables in a CONTROLED ENVIRONEMENT does NOTHING to alter those FACTS.
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LudvanB Inactive Member |
quote: Would you care to give us a few exemples of those testable predictions of creationism?
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LudvanB Inactive Member |
Actually,its likely that vitamin deficiency is exactly what caused Tyke to die from a viral infection. The Lion obviously was never very healthy and would likely have dies in mere months in the wild. As for the other Lion in 1936 thats at best hear say,although i understand the need for creationist to cling to whatever shred of would be evidence they can find,since the bulk of science does not support their wild claims
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LudvanB Inactive Member |
"Actually,its likely that vitamin deficiency is exactly what caused Tyke to die from a viral infection."
quote:-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Most cases of viral pneumonia are usually mild and resolve spontaneously without specific treatment. "Pneumonia." Microsoft Encarta Encyclopedia 2001. 1993-2000 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LUD:And the level of health of a given creature is usually quite relevent to weather or nor it dies from pneumonia...This Lion has lived all her existance in captivity,being cared for by people that made every efforts for her not to die...which she did nevertheless. The logical conclusion is that in the wild,Type would never have reached adulthood,even if her own mother haden't been bent of killing her at birth. "The Lion obviously was never very healthy and would likely have dies in mere months in the wild."--By what cause would it have died? Also, little-tyke was 'very' healthy: Vegetarian Lionessby James A. Peden - http://www.newveg.av.org/animals/vegetarianlioness.htm quote:-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This particular big cat, in her prime and perfect health, chose a more gentle way of life, vegetarian! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LUD: Thats their opinion and it is not substanciated by the fact that she died from pneumonia IN CAPTIVITY WHILE BEING CARED FOR. As for a "gentler" way of life,thats actually dependent on a given POV...i'm not sure the plants she devoured would agree with this "notion of gentleness"... "As for the other Lion in 1936 thats at best hear say,although i understand the need for creationist to cling to whatever shred of would be evidence they can find,since the bulk of science does not support their wild claims"--Lets not be ignorant, you have yet to explain to me why this feline is not significant by its number, being just one example (along with the other I gave you). LUD:Its not significant because they are obviously what intelligent people refer to as "exceptions to a rule"...every rule has them. Some people have actually been born with two heads,each with a distinct personality. Is this an indication that at one time in the past,we were all two headed beings? No,of course no...its a mutation,more or less isolated from the rest of the human race,just like Tyke was a mutant to her race...and as i said,not even a viable one,since she required constant supervision and care to even reach 1/4 of normal lion life expectancy....as for her playing with chick without harming them,thats not unusual....my sister's cat does the same with our budgee Philiss....the two were inseparable when she lived here. I can name several exemples of animals,normaly carnivores,who actually have loving relationships woth animals they would normally feast upon. Perhaps it was one such exception being observed in the distant past that prompted the biblical quotation of wolves lying down with sheep. It certainly would make a hellavulot more sense than all carnivores having been vegetarians until they were all taken aboard a huge mythical boat to be saved from a mythical global flood.
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LudvanB Inactive Member |
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LudvanB Inactive Member |
quote: Punisher,read the coincidence part of this "article"...they clearly state that it is estimated that the population doubled every 156 years. In any event,the entire thing is completely bogus. First,they give the sons of Noah a given number of sons...then they ASSUME an equal number of daughters,doing this with no scriptural or scientific evidence WHATSOEVER to come up with an average of 8.1 kids per couple...then,that figures becomes 8.53 in the next paragaph,with no explanation for the .43 that was added and the entire thing is build on the ALLREADY PROVEN WRONG assumption that there was a constant population growth....until 80 years ago,the world's population growth looked more like a mild swelling than a growth...then,it exploded to the levels we know today. Oh,and they base much of the article on the COMPLETELY UNSUBSTANCIATED NONSENSE BELIEF of people living to be 900...the whole calculation is so shaky that a breeze will topple it any day of the week and twice on sunday...the only way for anyone to buy even half of this nonsense calculation is to be terminally stupid!!!
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