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AZPaul3
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Message 31 of 51 (605324)
02-18-2011 3:42 PM
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02-18-2011 2:49 AM


Re: Baby Pictures
Dr. A,
If I may, what program are you using for your screen prints?
Used to have one for many years that got lost in a series of trades/upgrades/losses. I've periodically had such a need (or desire) and been putting off the hunt for the last couple years.

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Message 32 of 51 (605329)
02-18-2011 4:06 PM
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02-18-2011 3:42 PM


Re: Baby Pictures
In Windows, Alt+PrtSc (alt plus print screen) "copies" the whole screen and then you can paste that into Paint or irfanview <-- software

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AZPaul3
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Message 33 of 51 (605350)
02-18-2011 5:38 PM
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02-18-2011 4:06 PM


Screen Capture
Yah, I know that one. I thought you might be using some fancy piece of (free) software that would take what you want grabbed from anywhere on the screen and make various file types.
I wish I could remember where I got that.
Oh, well.
Thanks, Dr A. Appreciate the response.

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Message 34 of 51 (605354)
02-18-2011 6:21 PM
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02-18-2011 5:38 PM


Re: Screen Capture
AZPaul3 writes:
Yah, I know that one. I thought you might be using some fancy piece of (free) software that would take what you want grabbed from anywhere on the screen and make various file types.
I wish I could remember where I got that.
Oh, well.
Thanks, Dr A. Appreciate the response.
If you are using Windows Vista/7, you can use the build in tool 'Snipping Tool'.
Its in accessories.
If you are using WinXP, use Greenshot.
If you are using Linux (which means you have to reboot about as often as you get laid) use Shutter.
On topic, it seems im stuck at about 900 points.
Edited by rbp, : No reason given.

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Message 35 of 51 (605355)
02-18-2011 6:25 PM
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02-18-2011 5:38 PM


Re: Screen Capture
Hi Paul,
XNView is good for changing images from various file types to another. Also handy for resizing, clipping, etc and it can categorise your pictures.
XnSoft
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On two occasions I have been asked, — "Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?" ... I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. - Charles Babbage

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Michael
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Message 36 of 51 (605357)
02-18-2011 6:45 PM
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02-18-2011 6:21 PM


Re: Screen Capture
If you are using Linux (which means you have to reboot about as often as you get laid) use Shutter.
AZPaul3 never gets laid? That's very sad.

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Message 37 of 51 (605363)
02-18-2011 7:19 PM


Still stuck on 1055.
Time for the wrathfulness and the flood, methinks.

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Message 38 of 51 (605388)
02-18-2011 11:31 PM
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02-18-2011 7:19 PM


Your at a critical junction of your evolution (say ... like the jump from unicellular to multicellular) so unless you want to wait a billions years worth of generation, I'd suggest a clean up

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Message 39 of 51 (605390)
02-18-2011 11:50 PM
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02-18-2011 11:31 PM


Your at a critical junction of your evolution (say ... like the jump from unicellular to multicellular) ...
No, I'm at a local maximum --- like our inside-out retinas. There's no small change that would bring about an improvement.
(Evolution from single-celled to colonial organisms can be seen in the laboratory, BTW.)

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Message 40 of 51 (605391)
02-19-2011 12:58 AM


The way you guys are comparing notes and bragging about your evolving vehicles is exactly what the aliens are saying about their hobby; which is this larger realm where we live.

  
AZPaul3
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Message 41 of 51 (605459)
02-19-2011 11:18 PM
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02-18-2011 6:25 PM


Re: Screen Capture
XNView is good for changing images from various file types to another. Also handy for resizing, clipping, etc and it can categorise your pictures.
Ooo! This looks nice. Gonna go play with this one.
Thanks, Granny!

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AZPaul3
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Message 42 of 51 (605460)
02-19-2011 11:23 PM
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02-18-2011 6:45 PM


Getting What?
AZPaul3 never gets laid? That's very sad.
"getting laid" seems like a euphemism for something vaguely familiar but I can't remember what.

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Michael
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Message 43 of 51 (605480)
02-20-2011 8:07 AM
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02-19-2011 11:23 PM


Re: Getting What?
AZPaul3 writes:
AZPaul3 never gets laid? That's very sad.
"getting laid" seems like a euphemism for something vaguely familiar but I can't remember what.
This might help:
(for the record, that was designed, not evolved)

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Message 44 of 51 (605576)
02-20-2011 11:53 PM
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02-18-2011 2:49 AM


Dr. A was at 1055.1
Dr. A was at 1055.1 at 2:11
I seem to remember that it took quite a while to get past that point. I took a lot of screen shots, but I seemed to have started doing such later. I need to get back to looking at the photo record, but need to get other things done now.
I got to 1135.3 at 2:02, and then stalled forever. At one generation I had 6 of 20 cars making it to that point. Any differences between them was extremely subtle.
Anyway, I cut the test off midway through generation 193 (I had it running for about 36 hours).
I saved a version of the best car and injected it into a new test. In a couple of tries it has seriously evolved to the worse in just the first few generations, when the track was still relatively short. I need to look to see if the mutations can be shut off.
Moose

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Message 45 of 51 (605586)
02-21-2011 12:44 AM
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02-20-2011 11:53 PM


Re: Dr. A was at 1055.1
You can shut off the mutations by setting it to 0.
I think the trick when you get to a point of local maximum as Dr.A put it (and where you were at 1135.3) is maybe put a bigger mutation rate and hope for a lucky bounce

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