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nator
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Message 48 of 123 (59488)
10-05-2003 9:55 AM
Reply to: Message 31 by Rei
10-04-2003 6:12 PM


quote:
Gotta love that overriding influence of Islam on the world body, which has led to not a single resolution against Israel being inforced....
That's because it's really the Jews who have the worlwide influence!
...or mabe it's the Masons, or the Mormons, or it could be the Illuminati, or aliens, or, or...

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nator
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Message 68 of 123 (59692)
10-06-2003 10:12 AM
Reply to: Message 49 by mark24
10-05-2003 11:51 AM


quote:
Er, & when did the evilutionists threaten to dominate thought, activity, & free speech? As far as I was aware you are perfectly free to think & speak any way you like? What attempt have evolutionists made to assaut the constitution in this way?
I think you misread what Buz wrote, Mark.
He is comparing Evolutionists with Muslims, and saying that it's the Muslims who are striving to dominate the planet.
The Evolutionists strive only to dominate the American educational system.
I suppose we Evolutionists are striving for such domination, just like the Germ Theory of Diseaseists, the Atomic Theory of Matterists, and the Heliocentric Solar Systemists are, wouldn't you agree?

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nator
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From: Ann Arbor
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Message 69 of 123 (59694)
10-06-2003 10:20 AM
Reply to: Message 55 by Buzsaw
10-05-2003 6:48 PM


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The Capitol city of terrorism is Mecca
Oh?
Timothy McVeigh was Islamic?
I didn't realise that the Ku Klux Klan was an Islamic organization, either.
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nator
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Message 70 of 123 (59698)
10-06-2003 10:32 AM
Reply to: Message 69 by nator
10-06-2003 10:20 AM


I will also mention here, with regards to terrorism, that the US refuses to stop using cluster bombs and also refuses to sign an anti-land mine treaty.

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nator
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Message 74 of 123 (59835)
10-06-2003 10:31 PM
Reply to: Message 73 by Chiroptera
10-06-2003 7:55 PM


Re: sounds like a Chick tract
Exodus 22:20
He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed.
And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? ... Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.-- Numbers 31:15-19
Note: It's worth reading this entire chapter of Numbers. It goes into great detail about what terrible things Moses and the Israelites did to the Midianites, all of which was commanded by the LORD.
And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain.-- Deut 2:34
And we utterly destroyed them, ... utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of every city.--Deut 3:6
I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation.--eut 5:9
And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them.--Deut 7:2
And thou shalt consume all the people which the LORD thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity upon them.--Deut 7:16
Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword.--Deut 13:15
And when the LORD thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword: But the women ... shalt thou take unto thyself.--Deut 20:13-14
But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth.--Deut 20:16-17
If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me. I will make mine arrows drunk with blood, and my sword shall devour flesh.--Deut 32:41-42
He smote all the house of Jeroboam; he left not to Jeroboam any that breathed, until he had destroyed him, according unto the saying of the LORD.--I Kings 15:29
Elisha prayed unto the LORD, and said, Smite this people, I pray thee, with blindness. And he smote them with blindness according to the word of Elisha.--II Kings 6:18
And when he came to Samaria, he slew all that remained unto Ahab in Samaria, till he had destroyed him, according to the saying of the LORD-- II Kings 10:17
The angel of the LORD went out, and smote in the camp of the Assyrians an hundred fourscore and five thousand: and when they arose early in the morning, behold, they were all dead corpses.--II Kings 19:35
And he brought out the people that were in it, and cut them with saws, and with harrows of iron, and with axes. Even so dealt David with all the cities of the children of Ammon.--I Chronicles 20:3
So the LORD sent pestilence upon Israel: and there fell of Israel seventy thousand men.--I Chronicles 21:14
Whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.--II Chronicles 15:13
The righteous shall rejoice when he seeth the vengeance: he shall wash his feet in the blood of the wicked.--Psalms 58:10
That thy foot may be dipped in the blood of thine enemies, and the tongue of thy dogs in the same.--Pslams 68:23
Wherefore hath the LORD pronounced all this great evil against us? or what is our iniquity? or what is our sin that we have committed against the LORD our God? Then shalt thou say unto them, Because your fathers have forsaken me, saith the LORD.-- Jeremiah 16:10-11
Cursed be he that keepeth back his sword from blood.-- Jeremiah 48:10
When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumbling-block before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered.--Ezekiel
3:20
And it shall come to pass, that when any shall yet prophesy, then his father and his mother that begat him shall say unto him, Thou shalt not live; for thou speakest lies in the name of the LORD: and his father and his mother that begat him shall thrust him through when he prophesieth.--Zechariah 13:3
Almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.--Hebrews 9:22

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nator
Member (Idle past 2198 days)
Posts: 12961
From: Ann Arbor
Joined: 12-09-2001


Message 103 of 123 (60250)
10-09-2003 10:07 AM
Reply to: Message 99 by Buzsaw
10-09-2003 12:14 AM


Re: What?
quote:
4. Shraf resorted to meanspirited insultive responses and I simply refuse to respond to such.
So, you consider my doing nothing other than quoting the Bible to give examples of God's directives to persecute or kill unbelievers as 'meanspirited' and 'insulting'?
That's my only post in this thread; a long list of bible quotes.
Perhaps you are confusing Zhimbo and me.
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nator
Member (Idle past 2198 days)
Posts: 12961
From: Ann Arbor
Joined: 12-09-2001


Message 118 of 123 (60580)
10-12-2003 12:51 AM
Reply to: Message 108 by Buzsaw
10-10-2003 12:39 AM


Re: What?
quote:
Nothing in the Bible teaches that we Christians should do violence to anyone.
Maybe you read a different Bible than everybody else?
Whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.--2 Chron: 15:13
(There's more where this came from, but it is the most blatant directive I could find.)
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nator
Member (Idle past 2198 days)
Posts: 12961
From: Ann Arbor
Joined: 12-09-2001


Message 119 of 123 (60582)
10-12-2003 1:12 AM
Reply to: Message 109 by Buzsaw
10-10-2003 12:51 AM


Re: What?
quote:
Not so with my quotes from the Quran. They apply to the here and now, as demonstrated by the most devout Muslims who are willing to pay the price and as appied to the bussed in terrorists in the Nigerian riots.
Buz, what about the century-long reign of terror that white Christian racists, including the Klu Klux Klan, inflicted upon the South?
Even before that, the Bible was used as justification for the owning of human beings as slaves in our country.
What about the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, the Salem Witch Trials, the murders of gynocologists, Eric Rudolph (a member of a nutso Christian group and the Olympic Park Bomber who hid out in the NC woods for years), etc.
The Bible was used as justification to terrorize and murder untold numbers of people over the centuries. Most of the current extreme right-wing extremist groups in the US identify, some quite strongly, as Christian groups.
You just seem to be utterly and completely blind to this reality in your own religion while seeing nothing but the equivalent side to Islam.

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