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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Percy writes: Buzsaw writes: Your analogies are non-sequitur, in that none of them have real life physical supportive (I say supportive corroborating evidence, such as was debated in the Exodus thread). Sure they have real life physical evidence, just like you. Better than you, in fact. They have photos, movies even, of Bigfoot, alien spacecraft, Nessie and ghosts. They have tufts of Bigfoots hair, metal from the spacecraft, Nessie coprolites, and sances where ghosts make actual personal appearances. That's a matter of opinion. Imo, none of the above are as significant or quantitatively expressed as what was cited on the Exodus thread. Personal experience, for example, pertains to persons experiencing phenomena.
Percy writes: Of course, you're aware that nobody is claiming proof of the Biblical related events any more so than you people claim to prove your hypotheses and theories. Evidence, supportive to any hypothesis or theory is just that; supportive evidence. Everyone here understands this, Buz, and knows precisely how I intended the word "prove". It is only when someone says, "You can't prove (whatever)," that you know someone is misunderstanding how the word "prove" is meant in science. However, that's never worked for creationists who have applied it as you did in Message 128. They get hammered for it. Furthermore, you implied, in that message that I applied it in the Exodus thread, when you said, "Instead of trying to convince everyone, 'Hey, no need for more evidence, we already have all the evidence we need to prove the supernatural,' which is ludicrous, you should instead seek real evidence." Another applications was: "Sometimes we're lucky and a single piece of evidence is all we need to prove something. ..... More from Message 128, to which I will respond here, since it applies:
Percy writes: So you want to prove the global flood, and if there really had been a global flood then fossil sea shells on mountain tops might be from the flood, but it could be due to something else. Again, grossly misrepresenting my MO, concerning the flood implying that sea shells were my sole evidence intended by me to prove the flood.
Percy writes: So you want to prove the Exodus, and if there really had been an Exodus then a circular coral formation could be a chariot wheel, but it could be a lot of other things, too. And on and on. Here you apply the divide and conquer tactic, implying over the www that Buzsaw's sole evidence for the Exodus was the wheel shaped corral formations.(End responses to Message 128. Percy writes: Your Exodus multi=member dream team enjoyed the advantage of the pack against one... You mean there were no other creationists who agreed with you and argued your position with you? You mean (gasp!) that creationists aren't team players? Geez, what a novel thought! Little David, lowly shepherd came to delivering lunch to his brothers, highly trained warriors in the Israeli Army, noticed that the mighty army stood terrified at the great giant, Goliath, armoured to the teeth, jeering the Israel army, challenging one of them for a fight. Lowly little David, wondered why nobody trusted Jehovah to fell the Giant infidel. Little David, skilled and armed with his little sling said, "I'll go, trusting Jehovah for the victory." Little David, who'd killed a bear and a lion by his skill and practice with the little sling, picked up three little smooth stones, two for good measure. He honed in on the tiny vulnerable unprotected area of the huge giant head, left bare so he could see, let fly, the first little smooth stone and down went Goliath. I've narrated the above to say that sadly, creationists, by and large, know a whole lot about sports statistics and practically nothing about things like Biblical Prophecy and the Exodus evidence, etc. The pulpits in nearly all segments of the Christian community are silent on nearly a third of the Bible involving prophecy. The credentialed graduates and doctors of divinity, trained in the colleges and seminaries, by and large, know more of sports than of the prophecies. They, like the mighty army of Israel are highly trained, but unable to oppose the infidel. Thus, little ole Buz man, armed with decades of home study, pretty much stands alone here at EvC to counter the jeering infidel. The Goliath dream team failed to defeat little David Buz in the Exodus thread, but little Buz man still stands, citing evidence stones, albeit, against the Goliath dream team, thanks be to Jehovah, the only existing god in the Universe! 
Percy writes: I debunked... You never. The definition of debunked is not, "I typed a bunch of fallacies, rationalizations and complaints about unfair treatment into a text box." You are seriously delusional, not to mention paranoid. Again, you make my point about the reason that not one evidence cited by creationists, supportive to the supernatural have ever been acknowledged in the nearly eight years that I've been here at EvC. I believe Moose came the closest in the population thread, but short of a definitive admission.
Percy writes: The point of my previous post is that it is rare for a single piece of evidence to prove anything. If it were that simple then mankind would have figured out evolution long before Darwin, but it took massive amounts of evidence and thought. You can't look at a circular coral formation and conclude "Exodus!" With so little you're not even up to the first rung on the ladder of confidence for evidence. That you don't understand this, don't even seem to comprehend the volume of shenanigans committed in the name of religion, never learn anything from the sheer number of times they've found things like Noah's Ark, means you are doomed to be convinced by any claims sympathetic to your religious beliefs, no matter how impoverished. Mm Hm. Typical of what has thickened my skin over the years as I've fought the good fight for Jehovah and his Biblical record, mis-representing my MO with statements like, " You can't look at a circular coral formation and conclude "Exodus."
Percy writes: If your so-called evidence were so persuasive then you'd have found some converts out there, but you haven't. Your evidence is so weak you can't even convince your own kind, let alone anyone familiar with science and scientific methodologies. Evidence is evidence, Buz, go find some. The rules are the same for everyone, stop moaning and groaning because your evidence doesn't measure up. Only Jehovah, God knows how many have been either converted, educated, enlightened, edified, encouraged, spiritually renewed and, yes, converted among current members, members no longer with us, guests, and whom so ever, out there connected to the www. Moreover, God's throne room in Heaven exists somewhere out there in the cosmos. The Great White Throne judgment awaits all mankind who ever lived! BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Dr Jones writes: ....... you ran away. Not once did you provide empirical evidence for the alleged land bridge. There comes a time to refrain from repetitively repeated repetitions. Not once did I claim to have provided empirical evidence relative to the shallows, Dr. Jones. Your memory fails. What I did was to debate reasons why a mighty rush of sea and millenniums of time could well have eroded the shallow delta, likely created by the flood from creating the wadi canyon. Moreover, that event was relatively (I say, relatively) near the time of the flood which would have created the delta. More about that, when I find time to get back to the Exodus thread. The wee hrs, here in NY, are telling me I need some rest. Good morning.  BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
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jar Member (Idle past 414 days)  Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Buzsaw writes: Dr Jones writes: ....... you ran away. Not once did you provide empirical evidence for the alleged land bridge. There comes a time to refrain from repetitively repeated repetitions. Not once did I claim to have provided empirical evidence relative to the shallows, Dr. Jones. Your memory fails. What I did was to debate reasons why a mighty rush of sea and millenniums of time could well have eroded the shallow delta, likely created by the flood from creating the wadi canyon. Moreover, that event was relatively (I say, relatively) near the time of the flood which would have created the delta. More about that, when I find time to get back to the Exodus thread. The wee hrs, here in NY, are telling me I need some rest. Good morning. The Biblical Flood has been absolutely and totally refuted. Every time you assert the Biblical Flood you are posting a FALSEHOOD, a lie. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
PaulK writes: A forum full of people like Buz would be hard-pressed to stand each other ! Don't forget that Buz thinks that creationists should accept HIS views even when they are even more stupid than standard YEC views. You can't cite, in the archives, where I have treated YECs on this board badly. I am well esteemed in a church full of them with whom I fellowship each sabbath day as well as other personal visits and functions. We have the attitude that iron sharpens iron in our church. My beloved doctor of divinity pastor has allowed me to teach him the prophecies and functions of the Holy Trinity, prayer, etc (Not taught in the universities & seminaries). He teaches me much in history and other knowledge he has acquired in his education. There have been areas in doctrine where the two of us have changed each other's views so as for both of us to be edified and in order that we may, in turn edify others. Pastor is presently teaching a study of Daniel's prophecies, applying only the text, rather than published quarterlies. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Percy writes: You are seriously delusional. --Percy Nevertheless, I have at least one bonafide esteemed credentialed marine research scientist, Dr. Lennart Moller, as well as other intelligent company like Lysemachus (remember him?), his friends amd other good company sharing my delusions ABE: LYSEMAUCHUS, WHERE ARE YOU? Edited by Buzsaw, : change phrase and Title Edited by Buzsaw, : AS NOTED BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
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jar Member (Idle past 414 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Buzsaw writes: Percy writes: You are seriously delusional. --Percy Nevertheless, I have at least one bonafide esteemed credentialed marine research scientist, Dr. Lennart Moller, as well as other intelligent company like Lysemachus (remember him?), his friends amd other good company sharing my delusions ABE: LYSEMAUCHUS, WHERE ARE YOU? Lennart Mller is a respected and credentialed Marine Research Scientist? Evidence please Buz. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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