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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: Maybe not. But then how often do you argue with the actual YECs here ? However that does not mean that if people like you were in the majority that they would not turn on each other. After all you are happy enough to go after your fellow Christians who are NOT creationists.
quote: It doesn't seem to work very well. Have none of them ever noticed your misrepresentations of the Bible and been castigated as mere novices got daring to know the Bible better than you ?
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
So basically you've got the dubious Ron Wyatt (so disreputable even you sometimes try to hide his involvement), a (literally) raving Ron Wyatt fanboy and a disciple of Ron Wyatt who has published a book of pseudoscientific nonsense.
And you think that this ADDS to your credibility ?
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Percy Member Posts: 22489 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
Buzsaw writes: Nevertheless, I have at least one bonafide esteemed credentialed marine research scientist, Dr. Lennart Moller, as well as other intelligent company like Lysemachus (remember him?), his friends amd other good company sharing my delusions ABE: LYSEMAUCHUS, WHERE ARE YOU? God, Buz, where does it end with you? How many times were you informed at the Did the Biblical Exodus ever happen? thread, where, by the way, we're still waiting for your evidence, that Mller is a "bonafide esteemed credentialed marine research scientist." He is, according to his webpage at Wikipedia, "a professor of environmental medicine at the Karolinska Institute." He's in the Department of Biosciences and Nutrition. This is from his biography page at Karolinska Institutet:
Lennart Moller was born in 1954 in Stockholm. He studied biology and chemistry at the universities of Stockholm and Uppsala and earned his bachelor 1979th He was then working as a toxicologist at the Institute of water and air pollution research in Stockholm and a researcher at the Research Triangle Park, North Carolina, USA. In 1982 Lennart Moller of the Karolinska Institute, Department of Medical Nutrition, and since 1989 worked at the Department of Biosciences at Novum, where he leads the research in analytical toxicology. Lennart Moller PhD in 1988 at KI with a thesis on air pollution and cancer. 1994 he became associate professor of environmental medicine and in 1997 lecturer on this subject. He is also studies. Lennart Moller has a wide international network, among other things, he initiated a European project with 28 laboratories in different countries, he has also written several books. Do you see anything in there, anything at all, about marine biology? Now go to Google Scholar and search for "Lennart Mller". Do you see any papers on marine biology? Any at all? Yet wait a week (probably less) and there you'll be again claiming that Lennart Mller is a "bonafide esteemed credentialed marine research scientist." The reason you're seriously delusional is because you've been presented all the information about Mller's credentials, about religious flim-flam, about Bigfoot and alien abductions having as good evidence as the Exodus, about how more than just single pieces of unrelated evidence are required, and you just ignore it all and go blithely on as if none of this information existed. You believe what you want to believe regardless of the reality, and you don't seem to care how stupid you sound, as if being an idiot before the world were just one more cross for "poor ole buz" to carry. By the way, "LYSEMAUCHUS" actually spells his name "Lysimachus". His email's public, send him an email if you want his help here. --Percy Edited by Percy, : Additional info about Lysimachus. Edited by Percy, : Remove extraneous and very misleading "not".
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Taz Member (Idle past 3317 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
DrA writes:
But how do you know that it's effective? There have been studies that show ignorant people can't understand why they are wrong and continue to believe in the nonsense that they believe in. I would not descend to mockery if I knew of a better way. Among the Inept, Researchers Discover, Ignorance Is Bliss
quote: We've all observed what this study confirmed. People who can't understand the evidence tend to be the surest people about their ill-informed preconceptions. Again, how do you know they even understand your snarks? Case in point. Buzsaw might not like this, but he is demonstrating the conclusion of the mentioned experiments. Edited by Taz, : No reason given.
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Percy Member Posts: 22489 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
Yeah, I know. I'm hoping it'll slip through because this is Coffee House and because Buz is really outdoing himself.
--Percy
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Percy writes: .......we're still waiting for your evidence, that Mller is not a "bonafide esteemed credentialed marine research scientist." My point was that if I'm delusional, so is an esteemed scientist, who did the research. How do you think he did his other scientific research, without the equipment needful for the marine aspects of it? Why do you think he invested, likely millions in a fully equipped marine ship; for pleasure purposes? I don't think so. How do you think he had the expertise and equipment, with the techy equipment aboard to do the marine research that he documented? Perhaps you could contact him and talk to him about your doubts? BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 8.7 |
My point was that if I'm delusional, so is an esteemed scientist, who did the research.
or he's a liar and a fraud, which is not unheard of in the "research" of christian mythology, see: Ron Wyatt.
How do you think he had the expertise and equipment..
Well seeing as he apparently didn't even bring along a tape measure i question his expertise and equipment. It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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jar Member (Idle past 419 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Buzsaw writes: Percy writes: .......we're still waiting for your evidence, that Mller is not a "bonafide esteemed credentialed marine research scientist." My point was that if I'm delusional, so is an esteemed scientist, who did the research. How do you think he did his other scientific research, without the equipment needful for the marine aspects of it? Why do you think he invested, likely millions in a fully equipped marine ship; for pleasure purposes? I don't think so. How do you think he had the expertise and equipment, with the techy equipment aboard to do the marine research that he documented? Perhaps you could contact him and talk to him about your doubts? The point is that he is NOT an esteemed marine researcher, did NO marine research and only counted on the utter gullibility of the Christian Cult of Ignorance and the assurance that they would be unable to see that all he produced was bullshit. I really doubt that he is delusional though I am willing to accept that as an explanation rather than just saying he was another Christian con man. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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ringo Member (Idle past 437 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Buzsaw writes:
If he documented his research, why don't you present the documentation? All you've shown is a video of a coral formation with a chariot wheel drawn on it. How do you think he had the expertise and equipment, with the techy equipment aboard to do the marine research that he documented? You can have brevity and clarify, or you can have accuracy and detail, but you can't easily have both. --Percy
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
jar writes: I really doubt that he is delusional though I am willing to accept that as an explanation rather than just saying he was another Christian con man. I don't think a man of his esteem would commit fraud and jeopardise his repution. Moreover, as I told Percy, if I'm delusional, he's delusional. I maintain that if secularist scientists thought they could falsify Moller, they would be there to do so. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9196 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
I maintain that if secularist scientists thought they could falsify Moller, they would be there to do so. There is nothing to falsify. He presents no evidence just assertions. How can the falsify something that has no evidence in the first place?Can you falsify the assertion that jesus traveled to India? Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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jar Member (Idle past 419 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Buzsaw writes: jar writes: I really doubt that he is delusional though I am willing to accept that as an explanation rather than just saying he was another Christian con man. I don't think a man of his esteem would commit fraud and jeopardise his repution. Moreover, as I told Percy, if I'm delusional, he's delusional. I maintain that if secularist scientists thought they could falsify Moller, they would be there to do so. I see no problem, as I said, politely accepting that Mller is just delusional. there is absolutely nothing though to falsify about Mller, he produced no evidence to refute, just a video meant to market to the gullible Christian Cult of Ignorance. I am willing to concede that he is only delusional and not as dishonest as it seems. Edited by jar, : make it clear who I was referring to Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 8.7 |
I maintain that if secularist scientists thought they could falsify Moller, they would be there to do so.
What evidence is there that "secular" scientists:a:know of Moller's "work" 2: could give a shit? I maintain that you are a sheep fucker, and if you could falsify that you would. {Content hidden, 1 week suspension handed out. - Adminnemooseus} Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Content hidden, 1 week suspension handed out.
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3974 Joined: |
Return to the theme and spirit of message 1, or this topic is closing down.
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Straggler Member (Idle past 91 days) Posts: 10333 From: London England Joined: |
Well my creo-dream-team (at least in terms of fun to debate) would be:
BuzICANT Faith Nemesis Juggernaut If they could all agree on a stance that is
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