If men have to plan before they build, then how do you think the universe could be built without plans?
Well im not an expert on the subject but, after the big bang the first atoms presumably hydrogen where made 1 proton 1 neutron and one electron why well because if you add a proton its no longer hydrogen if you add a neutron its unstable and you just cant add an electron.
Now after that these atoms started to group together first by means of electrostatics then gravity took over and the pile got bigger and bigger and many such piles where made no need for a plan just using the natural properties of matter and when the piles where big enough they formed stars and those stars began to fuse some atoms together to make new atoms higher on the periodic table of elements no plan just natural properties of matter.
And those stars exploded ....... and the whole thing repeated itself many times over till one day in a galaxy you call home the milky way somewhere on the edge of that galaxy a new solar system was starting to form no plan it just did using the Natural properties of matter.
the sun was formed by the same principle as other stars, and so where the planets electrostatics brought a small pile of elements together then gravity brought more and with time a whole bunch of mass that we now call planets or the sun. No plan only natural properties of matter.
When the earth cooled down enough amino acids formed the first RNA molecule and after that natural selection took charge RNA and DNA molecules tend to duplicate themselves and their duplicates are often imperfect copies and that imperfection is what makes evolution work no plan just a natural thing. The molecule that had the better chance of duplicating itself made more molecules then the one that had a worse chance.
These molecules then began to protect themselves with walls around them giving them a better chance of duplicating more times then the molecules whiteout walls so cells where Bourne.
Cells evolved further cells "cooperating" ad a better chance of reproducing so the first multicellular organism formed ....... millions of years of evolution and extinction events that opened new niches finally gave rise to pre modern humans and trough the process of evolution smarter humans had a better chance of survival then drummer ones we evolved no plan just natural laws
What are the chances of all the elements being formed in the exact amounts needed on this earth to sustain life? How did the Hydrogen atom and Oxygen atom know how much water and air to make before there was any life on earth?
Well given that you can climb quite high on the Himalayas whiteout an oxygen tank the exact amounts are not needed to be so exact dont you think. and the planet is loosing a bit of its atmosphere every moment so the amounts have not been the same all the time
the O2 in the air was first produced by one of the first living things on earth that got its energy from removing iron from the primal oceans and releasing o2 in to the atmosphere. And we do not need exactly 21% o2 in our atmosphere to survive 17.5% is the minimum and at low pressures you can breathe 100% pure oxygen at normal or high pressures its dangerous.
You believe the first atoms were deuterium? Why not plain old single proton, no neutron, hydrogen?
Lol srry forgot my chemistry i believe i started with the line "Well im not an expert on the subject but,"
Are you arguing that the first atoms could not have 2 protons because the atoms would then be helium rather than hydrogen?
Nope im arguing his silly notions that atoms know how much of each (protons neutrons electrons) they must have. I do believe the first atoms could also have been hydrogen atoms.
Either way you want to roll the dice, our Tailor-made universe/galaxy/solar system is unique with "just right" constants necessary for there to be life on earth as we know it.
So if light wehere a bit faster life would not exsist, if gravity was a bit stronger life could not exsist, if pie was a round number life could not exist WHY NOT???
But I think this paticular space exploration looking for alien planets out there somewhere that we can never reach/visit is a great waste of time and money. That's the sad joke!
Why because we might understand the universe better, o i forgot you alredy understand it it was made by the snapping of gods fingers 6000 years ago. Well sadly moste of us are not convinced by these bead time stories and we want to know the truth.
And who knows maybe one day we will be capable of traversing the distances between stars and knowing where potentialy habitable planets are might be a good thing then or should we first build warp drives and just blindly point at a star and fly there with bible in hand hoping the place will be habitable and close enough.
Me thinks you've been living in Roddenberry's Star Trek fiction world too long! We may be able to travel to "parts unknown" in the future, but not in these earth suits we have now.
PS - I'm an old-age creationist, not a young one as you suggest. Snapping fingers may be your thing, but speaking is God's thing.
Damm and i thought in a tailor made universe for humans it would be easy to travel the stars.
Divine Tailor has made the 0.001% called earth just right
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The space between stars and planets is huge if 2 galaxies collide lots of times no collisions of planets or stars accure because the vastness of space between them
with an earth revolving around a just right sun at a just right distance
well the Earth moves about 3 MILLION miles closer and further from the sun each year cause our orbit is an elipse. so not so exact, its estimated that the goldy locks zone starts somewhere by Venus and ends by mars kinda a large place so the distance is not that critical to the millimeter exact. Not even a million miles means much to be in the JUST right zone.
with just right ingredients necessary for man's existance.
Yes a whole 30% of this planet is land u know humans cant breathe the 70% of wather that covers the earth so kinda not that tailored for us maybe your god likes fish better then humans.
Of that 30% of the planets surface that is land a whole bunch is uninhabitable to us. Kinda does not look to tailored for man to me.
But no amount of debating would ever convince you of this truth
some evidence could help to convince me tough i know its impossible to convince a creo what the evidence shows.
The earth is in the "just right" eliptical orbit around the sun that enables us to have seasons. If placed in an larger or smaller eliptical orbit, the seasons would be either too hot or too cold.
Sorry but our orbit that differs the range to the sun by about 3 MILLION miles HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SEASONS unless your claiming that the whole erth has winter at the same time no what has to do with seasons is the pitch of the earth thats is what gives us seasones not the distance!!!
Where else in the Solar System could there be life?
Jupiter's moon Europa is a possible candidate mars was a possible candidate but lost most of its atmosphere <--- small
Venus today has such a giant greenhouse effect that its surface temperature is 470 degrees Centigrade
you answered that one green house effect screwed the planet more then the distance to the sun
or - 48 C temperatures,
the coldest populated area has a record of -72C and hits over -50 every year
The earth has enough "just right" ingredients necessary for man's existance, then God gives us wisdom to know the difference between the good ingredients and the bad ones
Sure tough Erth is more JUST right for FISH then man 70% of the world surface is watter guess he loves fish more then man.
I like the question of this topic. I think it may be one of the few things that cant be explained by any science as of this point in time....But it in no means proves there is a god.....I would think it would be a fundamental question for any advanced race... But one without an answer. Please enlighten me to any scientific theory that would explain where matter came from??
Big bang theory, super string theory, oh and virtual particles pop in and out of exsistance all the time.
Re: Both orbit around the sun and tilt combined produce the earth's seasons
Yes, the earth's tilt is responsible for the earth's seasons. But if the earth did not orbit around the sun at a not too cold or hot distance, with slight changes in the position of the earth's tilt as it relates to the sun, tilt alone would not cause the seasons.
Yes it would the earth could be as far away as Jupiter and on a perfectly circular axis and we would still have seasons, as long as it was tilted. Sure the seasons would be winter grater winter greatest winter lesser winter.
the earth is closest to the sun on January the 3d, winter time on the northern hemisphere why because the tilt of the earth causes the suns rays to fall at a very shallow angle not causing the same warmth if they would fall at a straight angle.
This paticular reviewer/author seems to exclude a Tailor-made universe in favor of an off-the-peg universe based on the laws of physics as we know it.
How would an off the peg universe look like compared to a tailor made universe. Is it even possible for any of the physical laws to be any different. Do you have an off the peg real universe to compare our "tailor made one" or are you just assuming that our universe is tailor made because we happened to be here, and a noter race of beings in a noter off the peg universe to us is claiming that their universe is tailor made.
you are like a child living in a place where there is only one rock u pick up the rock and say this rock is tailor made to crush nuts, it is perfectly desighned to crush nuts that is why god made this rock where this rock any different it would not crush nuts.
On another issue that I have been greatly critized for, I would ask those who believe "tilt only causes the earth's seasons in the northern hemisphere," show us how this is true if the earth did not also orbit around the sun?
Firstly the tilt of the earth causes SEASONS ON THE WHOLE FRIGGIN PLANET
Secondly you claimed that the elliptical orbit alone causes the seasons do to the earth getting closer and farther from the sun. Not remotely true.
Thirdly every palanet we find has an orbit around its star.
Fourthly the seasones are caused because the tilt of the earth in relation to the sun determins the angle of the suns rays in a given aerea. the more directly and at less of an angle the suns rays fall on a given aerea the warmer it gets and you have summer, the grater the angle is the colder it gets and you have winter.
The tilt also has effects on daytime in winter the sun falls at such an angle that it has less time to be in your vive point so the days are shorter and nights are longer. The further north OR SOUTH you go from the equator the grater this effect is visible if you go really fare up north or SOUTH you get to an area where the sun shines for 6 months and it is night for the other 6 months. At those areas the sun is barely over the horizon for those 6 months and instead of setting it goes round and round slightly above the horizon line, so the suns rays do not fall directly on the surface and in turn not as much heat is given off by the sun causing those places to be cold as hell.
Do you understand now the elliptical orbit has no effect on our seasons any type of orbit would do as long the earth has a tilt. All we need of our orbit is to bring us to the other side of the sun / <--- lets say this is the earths tilt O < lets say this is the sun you can see that the earth is always tilted the same way / O / the difference is that on the other side of the sun the same direction of tilt brings the other pole at a different angle to the suns rays.
the same thing could be achieved by a stationary earth rotating only on its tilted axis and the sun going around it. Or the earth only rotating on its tilted axis and wabbeling. tough we do not see this kinds of things in our universe we see planets having orbits we see planets tilted or wabbeling and we see planets in Goldilocks zones
Excellent question. Nobody knows. We don't even know how many of the fundamental constants are independent. Perhaps a universe like ours are inevitable given the mass of a proton.
Exactly my point, until we find a different universe and see how physical laws work there we cannot know if ours are unique, common, uncommon, or the only possible.
Well, the definition of planet includes an orbit, so in some sense your statement is a tautology. Also, we detect planets due to interaction with their stars (transits and gravity induced motion of the star) we're going to detect masses orbiting stars. We cannot easily find rogue wandering rocks outside of our solar system.
Well i do know that the possibility of rouge planets exists planets that where thrown out of their orbits to wander the vastness of space alone though we dont need to worry his little head whit that he cant even comprehend why we have seasons.
no what has to do with seasons is the pitch of the earth thats is what gives us seasones not the distance!!!
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