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Author Topic:   What IS evidence of design? (CLOSING STATEMENTS ONLY)
Son
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Message 346 of 377 (608675)
03-12-2011 1:26 PM
Reply to: Message 344 by havoc
03-12-2011 12:49 PM


Re: Design Evidence
Instead of exchanging snarks with each other, why not respond to the OP? One easy way to do so would be to describe what ID would predict and the reasoning behind it.
For example, you could tell us what we should be finding in the fossil record according to ID. You could also tell us what predictions ID tells about DNA (in Evo's case, what we would see is a nested hierarchy as an example). You would also need to tell what would falsify it (in Evo's case, finding a monkey with bird wings would falsify it or something else you can't place on the tree of life).
After this we could go from there, but those steps are needed if we are to determine whether the evidence provided fits with ID.

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Son
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Message 356 of 377 (608692)
03-12-2011 5:24 PM


Despite not participating much in this thread, I followed it in the hope that ID proponents would show some proofs the same way scientists do for all scientific theories (meaning reasoning, prediction and falsification). What this thread made obvious is that ID is at best an hypothesis and most of its proponents don't want to play by the rules of science. The problem is that as long as ID don't do the work first, debating it feels shallow. I wish instead of using their money putting out books or legal challenges (and other publicity), they would do the work instead or come out and say they don't do science at all.

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Message 373 of 377 (608779)
03-13-2011 4:43 PM
Reply to: Message 371 by havoc
03-13-2011 3:15 PM


I know it's summation time but when we talked about evidence, we talked about the same kind you see everywhere else in science. The kind you can use to predict things for example and give a model of what it describes.

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