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frako Member (Idle past 333 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
This would be simple to test
starve a few mice for say 10 generations ad compare how much modification happened to their dna compared to the control group that has been fed for their 10 generations. And eliminate any from of selection by randomly and artificialy breading the population of mice. my guess the number of mutations from generation 1 to generation 10 in both the tes mice and the control mice would bethe same.
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frako Member (Idle past 333 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
Try rewording, I have a hard time understanding how you get to ten generations if you starve gen 1? Not starve out, just starve them giving them just enough food to survive. while the test group gets an abundance of food.
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frako Member (Idle past 333 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
Genetic mutatations or mistakes which make organism biologically more advanced-this right here shows that evolution does not invlove the bettering of species so you are saying there are no good mutations like the flue changing every year, or desieses getting resistant to antibiotics and stuff like that that just does not happen in daily life.
my question why aren't we evolving Yes we are
which by the way is funny because us humans have had many mutations yet remain the sam and continue with these genetic mishaps well yea you have around 4 mutations yourself as well as do I. So we are not the same anymore or how much difference do you need enough to turn us in to super humans in one go from normal to super not gona happen slow process remember.
and dnt tell it take millions of years ,carbon dating has been proven inaccurate so one step closer in proving the earth is only thousands of years old Yes in your little world where the preacher who has no skills on a subject like:Absolute dating Amino acid dating Appearance Event Ordination Biochronology Dendrochronology Fluorine absorption dating Herbchronology Law of superposition Obsidian hydration dating Optical dating Optically stimulated luminescence Orbital tuning Oxidizable carbon ratio dating Principle of faunal succession Rehydroxylation dating Relative dating SPECMAP Thermoluminescence dating Wiggle matchingć Astronomical chronology yes all dating methods none point to a young earth.
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frako Member (Idle past 333 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
That's great news. Do we have some kind of diector for this non-random, non-accidential, purposeful process?
NATURAL SELECTION <----- all.
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frako Member (Idle past 333 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
And how can you tell me a flu is a good mutation don't make me laugh. It is a good mutation for the flue you where immune to its predecessors but not the new flue. Or the swine, bird flue who got a whole aray of new hosts humans that flue never touched us before id say its a verry good mutation for that strain of flue.
And on what basis are we evolving? change over time Edited by frako, : No reason given.
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frako Member (Idle past 333 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
One last thing what proof is there we are currently evolving? Everything is always evolving from the basic viruses like the flue to the lizards in Australia that that stopped laying eggs and started to give live birth, the mouse that was left on some island, forgot witch, that changed so much it cannot breed with the typ of mouse that was left there and can still be found in abundance back home and only in 250 years . Why should we be the exception? What sort of "stimulates" evolution is the changes in the selective pressures that mouse for example was left in a totally different environment from whence it came so the pressures for "good" mutations was "bigger" then the pressure back home.
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frako Member (Idle past 333 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
go and compare your genome with the genome of your father and the genome of your mother you will find 4 gens (on average 4 muatations happen in humans) are different from the gens that your mother has and your father has ergo you changed from the blue print of your mother and father.
You do know how reproduction works dont you your momma provides 50% of the genetic material and your papa provides the other 50% a small amount of that material is different then the material your mama and papa have gens that have mutated. so you "changed" granted a minuscule amount but you did you are different. Now if any of those mutations give you a better chance of reproduction you can be the first "transitional" human in a long line of transitional humans to the first super human. Like gengis kahn who left a specific genetic mutation to a few million of his descendants. A study found that a few million people in the area where Genghis khan lived have the same mutation on their Y chromosome the most likely candidate to have passed down this mutation is Genghis khan. As to what trait would be greatly selected for in todays society i have no idea in the near future probably mutations that give you "smarts" will be selected for. smarter----> easier at getting an education ----->>> mo money ------->>> ability to have and properly raise more kids ------>>> kids having their own mutations the noes with mutations for "smartness" follow the same principle ........ why do i mention selection well because change whiteout selection is not evolution and do sent work.
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frako Member (Idle past 333 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
When a virus encounters a cell, a series of chemical reactions occur that lead to the production of new viruses. well life is a chemical reaction viruses are just the simplest things some call life. To me a virus is just a simpler bundle of chemicals and chemical reactions then a cell's bundle of chemicals and chemical reactions.
Haha btw the lizard you are talking about is a skink that is a rare species which gives birth to live young no evolution well yes except SAME SPECIES of lizard one state higher only lays eggs http://news.nationalgeographic.com/...-skink-live-birth-eggs
there and the mouse could have many factors affecting a birth defect or it has no eggs in the whom? Well that mouse can reproduce with the mice that are on that island but it can no longer reproduce with the ancestor mice from witch it evolved the mice still found in EUROPE or are you implying that the mice on that island will die off cause they cant reproduce at all. Edited by frako, : No reason given.
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frako Member (Idle past 333 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
Scientists and geneticists have proven that all humans have one common ancestor. The bible in the Genesis ch.1 account clearly says that Adam and Eve were the first humans on earth and we are their offspring. Even scientists today debate amongst themselves about the theory of humans evolving from apes but if you believe in God's Word which is the Truth then all other explanations of how humans came to existance would be null and void. Witch of the common ancestors of all humans are you talking about the: Homo hadilbergenis, homo ergaster........ ???? or are you talking about the ancestor of all humans and all apes the ancestor of both of the above mentioned cqause that is what science has proven
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frako Member (Idle past 333 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
Still have not seen any positive proof that we are evolving though? Probably the reactivation of some old gen though still evolution will this trait be selected for and we all become harry doubt it unless some form of ice age comes again and it is very beneficial to have fur. now i know what you will say but that is a birth defect yes and so are the roughly 4 gens that you have that are different from your mother and father and it gets passed on to his children as do your mutations the point is selection. if the environment select those changes like an ice age and all with that mutation/birth defect have a grater chance of surviving and breeding then the world gets overrun by harry humans.
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