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Author Topic:   How Does Republican Platform Help Middle Class?
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Message 121 of 440 (610616)
03-31-2011 3:42 PM
Reply to: Message 118 by Taq
03-31-2011 3:06 PM


You did. Your OP, imo, was very well worded so as to not get into a heated debate. It's just that someone decided to start getting defensive with their first post...... for absolutely no reason.

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Message 133 of 440 (610675)
03-31-2011 6:13 PM
Reply to: Message 131 by New Cat's Eye
03-31-2011 5:47 PM


In Illinois, they show you the easiest way to get
the benefits.
As a native flatlander, i feel you should qualify this statement with "the city i was in showed me the easiest way to get benefits". Not sure about Missouri though.

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Message 140 of 440 (610698)
03-31-2011 8:10 PM
Reply to: Message 139 by ZenMonkey
03-31-2011 7:51 PM


Re: One thing.
That's the comment made by me that brought phage into this discussion.

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Message 158 of 440 (610916)
04-03-2011 6:03 PM
Reply to: Message 154 by marc9000
04-03-2011 5:46 PM


NPR recently fired Juan Williams, a moderate liberal. I don’t watch NPR, but I wonder if you could name me any right wing extremists who are permitted to debate/share their opinions there. Just one. The percentages of liberal commentators/guests on Fox news may be small, but the list is long. Just off the top of my head; Kirsten Powers, Bob Beckel, Al Sharpton, Dennis Kucinich, Charles Rangel, Harold Ford. Fox news is loaded with debate and conflicting opinions. The mainstream media is not.
You don't know what NPR is, do you? How does one "watch" NPR?

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Message 168 of 440 (610969)
04-04-2011 9:36 AM
Reply to: Message 149 by crashfrog
04-02-2011 11:19 PM


Our nation's high unemployment rate and declining wealth of the middle class is almost entirely due to a deregulated financial services sector.
I watched Inside Job last night (until this morning, it was streaming free and free to download. Looks like it needs to be purchased now) and one of the things that stuck in my mind was how much the banksters and the fed reserve championed soooo fucking hard for de-regulation because they knew what they were doing was wrong. What is even more baffling is how people can be so oblivious to what is still occurring due to de-regulation and still, as middle income folk, fight against regulation.

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Message 182 of 440 (611056)
04-04-2011 11:21 PM
Reply to: Message 173 by marc9000
04-04-2011 7:53 PM


Haha, my mistake. Public radio / public television, it all tends to run together with me. Both liberal, both taxpayer supported. I actually seriously doubt I’ll ever have the stomach to pay any attention to either one. Michelle Bachman being on NPR does fascinate me however.
Funny thing. When I think of the programs that are "taxpayer supported", I think they are good for the public. NPR, for example. NPR actually is a good news source. If you ever listen to it, you will notice how, in a news piece, the interviewer or journalist does NOT take a side in the opinion. Rather, they are there to let the listener hear what is going on. I've read your posts on science threads, so I won't say anything about PBS and NOVA and the good it does for our youth.

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Message 185 of 440 (611060)
04-05-2011 12:09 AM
Reply to: Message 184 by ZenMonkey
04-05-2011 12:01 AM


I hate to play devils advocate, but can you not say that the rich can buy/purchase MORE of what the middle class do in the same argument?

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Message 187 of 440 (611063)
04-05-2011 12:25 AM
Reply to: Message 186 by ZenMonkey
04-05-2011 12:23 AM


Ok, I get what you mean. In that, there are more middle class personnel to spend the money.
{abe} forgive me, I'm half a bottle of rum in the drink and I can't pontificate and elaborate on the subjugate.
Edited by hooah212002, : No reason given.

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Message 378 of 440 (612934)
04-20-2011 10:50 AM
Reply to: Message 365 by Theodoric
04-19-2011 8:51 PM


Re: Minnesota Care
The budget cuts are also affecting a lot of the programs at the JobCenter. The Dislocated Workers program is one such program. It helps the unemployed get schooling. I went in and the guy told me not to even bother enrolling because, due to the budget cuts, they would have to start cutting people on the already year long waiting list.

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Message 391 of 440 (613032)
04-21-2011 9:59 AM
Reply to: Message 380 by ZenMonkey
04-20-2011 12:35 PM


Re: Minnesota Care
Not only that, but the programs being cut are there to help lower income people get skills or education so as to be a more productive member of society, better themselves in general or just provide a better life for their family; ya know, get themselves OUT of the lower income bracket. What else would that imply? They get a better job and pay more in taxes. Why is this not good?

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Message 393 of 440 (613082)
04-21-2011 2:21 PM
Reply to: Message 392 by Rahvin
04-21-2011 1:57 PM


Re: Minnesota Care
We all benefit.
If by "we", you mean society, I agree. If you include the Republican Party, I disagree. They (as of late) don't bode to well with educated folk.

"What can be asserted without proof, can be dismissed without proof."-Hitch.

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