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Buzsaw
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Message 1 of 121 (610868)
04-01-2011 11:59 PM


This Utube information is a must listen to for all Americans, especially if you have $$ assets.
The $$ is tumbling and the end of America as we know it could happen sooner than you think. It's time to prepare before it's too late.
A penny for your thoughts after you've listened, payable the 2nd Tuesday of next week.
The Lybian coalition thing is all about establishing a global military for the New World Order.
The Obama Admin/George Soros plans to crash the $$ so as to make all Americans poor in order to be controlled, likely before the 2012 elections, will set the stage for the New World Order/10 horned beast of Revelation global monetary system.
The one world monetary system, prophesied in Revelation 13 could happen relatively suddenly when the global currency dominoes begin to fall in the nations, the US, likely to be the first to go as nations are beginning to sell and reject American dollars.
ABE: I know that at the end there is something being sold, likely involving gold/silver mining call and put options or something like that, but for the most part, it's pertinent info, even in the sales pitch.
Coffee Shop my preference if it's up and running ok.
Edited by Buzsaw, : Add Paragraph.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

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Message 2 of 121 (610870)
04-03-2011 6:50 AM


Thread Copied from Proposed New Topics Forum
Thread copied here from the Monetary Tsunami In America!! thread in the Proposed New Topics forum.

  
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Message 3 of 121 (610874)
04-03-2011 8:35 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Buzsaw
04-01-2011 11:59 PM


LOL

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Message 4 of 121 (610875)
04-03-2011 8:56 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Buzsaw
04-01-2011 11:59 PM


Seriously, Buz. The guy's a scam artist, and the fact that you fall for his line of bullshit says more about your intelligent than anything else you've ever done here.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
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jar
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Message 5 of 121 (610879)
04-03-2011 10:02 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Buzsaw
04-01-2011 11:59 PM


There's a sucker born every minute.
Someone has to be really really stupid not to notice that the very folk that see the dollar as becoming worthless are also the very folk that are happy to take those soon to be worthless dollars in exchange for what they claim will be the only things of value.
"This way to the EGRESS folk."
But I'll admit his spiel is almost as funny as the Biblical Prophecy preachers.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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fearandloathing
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Message 6 of 121 (610883)
04-03-2011 10:21 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Buzsaw
04-01-2011 11:59 PM


Stop listening to Alex Jones
I bet you listen to Alex Jones, or the power hour. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that they are self serving, your worthless dollars are all they want, same as your link to a scammer. These people's bread and butter is the ignorance of their customer.
You can buy gold, I'll spend my money on dried foods and ammunition if I want to plan for future, me thinks they might be more valuable than gold, at least to me.

"I hate to advocate the use of drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they always worked for me." - Hunter S. Thompson
Ad astra per aspera

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Message 7 of 121 (610886)
04-03-2011 11:44 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Buzsaw
04-01-2011 11:59 PM


Obviously a scam.
The real point is that anyone who doesn't see that the wreckage of the US economy isn't due directly to the greed of the upper 0.1% of the wealthy is out of their freaking minds. Yet gullible Teabagger and other social conservatives still vote for their GOP lapdogs, despite those same lapdogs and lickspittles and consistantly pushing for legislation that only takes more money away from the middle and lower classes and passes it on to the real rich, that same 0.1%. Seems that as long as you say that you'll kick out the brown people, outlaw abortion and keep down the homos, you'll get elected every times.

I have no time for lies and fantasy, and neither should you. Enjoy or die.
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I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it. - John Stuart Mill

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Message 8 of 121 (610887)
04-03-2011 11:48 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Buzsaw
04-01-2011 11:59 PM


listening to the guy so fare he has been exaggerating or ignoring some facts like the country he mentioned Yugoslavia well it was no longer Yugoslavia it was Serbia who got bombed back to the stone age by NATO troops, and heavily sanctioned by foreign countries im not saying that the leaders of that country did not deserve it but the common folk really got fucked. He makes it appear like the country was not bombed back to the stone age but that the crisis just happened .
That "secret" meeting happened in 2009 basically the Arabs where pissed off by the plummeting value of the us dollar, hopefully the deal goes trough some day it would help the Eur o very much dont particularity care what happens to the dollar afterwards
If the statements of china getting rid of their dollars is true then there might be something to this deal
The statement of dollars being ever excepted universally is not true.
the part about cuba not excepting dollars should be logical they hate Americans they love the EUR-o though.
the thing about gold and silver is that not lots of it are bing mined mines get at best 2% of gold or cooper from ores, and in the same time "consumption" of those metals has risen europe has so called gold automates where you can buy gold bars from automates.
The worlds most valuable asset is land dunno if the prices soared as high as he said though they just dont make any more of it
I own enough land if the end of time comes ill still be able to feed myself. A country boy can survive
I seriously doubt that things would get this bad in America i think you are only indebted by 96% of your GDP countries with higher debts have been doing fine
And my guess is that this guy is a scam artist who will take the shirt of your back if you let him. My guess is he will make you want to give your money to him so he can "invest" it safely in his back pocket his villa and his yacht.

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crashfrog
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Message 9 of 121 (610888)
04-03-2011 11:51 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Buzsaw
04-01-2011 11:59 PM


ABE: I know that at the end there is something being sold, likely involving gold/silver mining call and put options or something like that, but for the most part, it's pertinent info, even in the sales pitch.
More evidence, I would say, of your congenital failure to evince any reasonable skepticism.
Imagine that I come to you and tell you all about the dangers of bear attacks. Hundreds die every year, I say, from bear maulings that can occur in your home, in your car, or even at your place of work. Hundreds! And if you want to avoid this horrific fate, why, I just so happen to have a can of Bear Scare right here! Smells like an ordinary spray air freshener, but contains special bear scent factors that frighten bears away for the entirety of an 8-hour application. Only $30 a can - cheap at any price!
See, a thinking person presented with this information would evince skepticism not only of the effectiveness and value of the Bear Scare product, but also of the supposed rationale I presented beforehand - a reasonable person would have reason to discount everything I said about the significance and frequency of bear attacks.
But you, because you're someone with a congenital mental disorder, decide that sure, Bear Scare is probably a scam - but if you discount that I'm trying to sell you something, there's real and pertinent info about bears up there!
That's the point, Buz. You can't discount that I was trying to sell you something. Everything I just told you about bears was in the service of trying to sell you something, so none of it can be considered reliable. The financial motive to misrepresentation of the facts is overriding. Just as it is in the case of your Youtube nonsense; the whole business - conspiracy theories about Obama and Soros, "New World Order", the notion that any country is "rejecting American dollars" - are lies meant to get you to buy gold at its highest price in decades, from people who have a lot of gold to sell.

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Message 10 of 121 (610890)
04-03-2011 12:05 PM
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04-03-2011 11:51 AM


are lies meant to get you to buy gold at its highest price in decades, from people who have a lot of gold to sell.
Which people are such successful scammers that they are able to take out three full-page ads this last week in our small-town newspaper, soliciting marks to come sell Grandpa's gold watch and Grandma's gold fillings at the Holiday Inn Express this weekend. And they will no doubt pay $500 an ounce tops, and then resell it to Buz for $1430. Who the hell knows what a Troy Ounce is anyway?
You are one of those marks, Buz.

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Message 11 of 121 (610895)
04-03-2011 12:33 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Buzsaw
04-01-2011 11:59 PM


Buzsaw writes:
The Obama Admin/George Soros plans to crash the $$ so as to make all Americans poor in order to be controlled, likely before the 2012 elections, will set the stage for the New World Order/10 horned beast of Revelation global monetary system.
It'll be interesting to watch you squirm out of that prediction in 2012 - and to see what creative accounting you use to make the horns add up to ten.

If you have nothing to say, you could have done so much more concisely. -- Dr Adequate

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Message 12 of 121 (610896)
04-03-2011 2:14 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by ringo
04-03-2011 12:33 PM


Is there no need for concern?
subbie writes:
The guy's a scam artist, and the fact that you fall for his line of bullshit says more about your intelligent than anything else you've ever done here.
Critics have successfully exposed Stansberrys agenda, but there are other more reputable newsletters that say essentially the same thing.----> Martin D. Weiss, Ph.D.
jar writes:
Someone has to be really really stupid not to notice that the very folk that see the dollar as becoming worthless are also the very folk that are happy to take those soon to be worthless dollars in exchange for what they claim will be the only things of value.
Point well taken, jar. Are you telling me though that these guys are wrong in that prices will sharply rise in the US in the future? Surely there has to be a way out of this mess.
fearandloathing writes:
You can buy gold, I'll spend my money on dried foods and ammunition if I want to plan for future, me thinks they might be more valuable than gold, at least to me.
A fat lot of good that would do. I dont plan on shooting anyone nor do i relish living like a survivalist.
Some questions.
1) If gasoline triples in price, wont food prices also likely do the same? Who in their right mind can afford such a future?
2) Is Martin Weiss also a scammer? He has been on CNN. Similar Apocolyptic Video
I guess im just worried. I dont forsee the beast of revelation, but worry that we ourselves would turn into such a beast if our economy tanks.

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crashfrog
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Message 13 of 121 (610898)
04-03-2011 2:26 PM
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04-03-2011 2:14 PM


Re: Is there no need for concern?
Critics have successfully exposed Stansberrys agenda, but there are other more reputable newsletters that say essentially the same thing
Maybe you could be explicit where Martin Weiss is proposing that Barack Obama - who doesn't set US monetary policy - and George Soros - whose holdings are primarily in US dollars - are working together to devalue the US dollar to usher in a "New World Order." And maybe you could explain how they were able to do that in the final year of the Bush administration, before Obama was in office?
Are you telling me though that these guys are wrong in that prices will sharply rise in the US in the future?
Yes! In fact we've been undershooting inflation targets for several years now, thanks to restrictive monetary policy. The result is double-digit unemployment caused by a missing 1.5 trillion dollars in aggregate demand.
Surely there has to be a way out of this mess.
Of course. The government should give people money, to buy things:
The difference between the red and blue line is the sole cause of the recession, and the difference is the result of the money that completely evaporated from the middle class's pockets, due to the collapse of the housing bubble and wealth transfer from the middle class to the rich.
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jar
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Message 14 of 121 (610900)
04-03-2011 3:08 PM
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04-03-2011 2:14 PM


Re: Is there no need for concern?
Phat writes:
jar writes:
Someone has to be really really stupid not to notice that the very folk that see the dollar as becoming worthless are also the very folk that are happy to take those soon to be worthless dollars in exchange for what they claim will be the only things of value.
Point well taken, jar. Are you telling me though that these guys are wrong in that prices will sharply rise in the US in the future? Surely there has to be a way out of this mess.
Hopefully prices will rise in the future, but that is totally irrelevant to this topic.
The point is "If the dollar is gonna be so worthless, how come they want those dollars?"

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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thingamabob
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Message 15 of 121 (610901)
04-03-2011 3:45 PM
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04-03-2011 2:26 PM


Re: Is there no need for concern?
crashfrog writes:
Of course. The government should give people money, to buy things:
Since the US government has no money, where would they get it from?
I know of only two sources.
They could raise taxes.
Or they could continue as they have over the last 2 years and borrow it from anyone willing to lend it to us.
Our national debt has increased since 2008 more than it increased by all the presidents from Washington through Ronald Reagan.
Well there is another way they could get money but it is still a tax. They could impose a 20% duty on all imports coming into this country. That would be a tax that is paid by the consumer thus everybody would participate in supporting the programs of the government.
It would also level the playing field and local factories could compete with those who use very cheap labor. That would take care of our unemployment problems and cause our purchasing in the US to increase.
thing

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