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bluescat48
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Message 197 of 445 (555046)
04-12-2010 12:05 AM
Reply to: Message 196 by Architect-426
04-11-2010 11:34 PM


Re: Ballistic Sedimentation - A Geological Impossibility
So yes, I am alone on this theory that the earth blew up during the Great Flood — it blew up BIG time.
So tell me then, how did Noah, his family and animals survive this monumental cataclysmic disaster in a small wooden boat, when the entire earth would have been in total devastation?

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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Message 211 of 445 (557386)
04-24-2010 11:12 PM
Reply to: Message 204 by Architect-426
04-24-2010 9:06 PM


Re: Ballistic Sedimentation <---Yeah baby!
Good question. Genesis 8:1 says And God remembered Noah The Flood was a total wipeout for sure WITH the earth, that’s why He said build an ark. Remembered in Hebrew means to mark or to be mindful of. Obviously we are all here so mankind survived by the grace of God and a new covenant was ushered in. So in essence, it was by grace.
In other words, magic aka bullshit.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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Message 274 of 445 (597950)
12-25-2010 10:08 PM
Reply to: Message 272 by Danielcp
12-25-2010 9:42 PM


Re: Flood Geography
There are at least 2 reasons for the fossils found in deserts & on mountains, climate change & plate tectonics.
At several times in the ancient past, the world climate was much warmer, with no ice cap. The sea level was several hundred meters higher than it is now, Much of the eastern & central North American was under water. When the climate cooled forming the ice caps the water receded leaving the bottom silt, containing dead organisms, in place. Plate tectonics, the plates colliding built up mountains carrying the remains of life with it. The point is this occurred millions of years ago and not all at once.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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Message 301 of 445 (609008)
03-15-2011 8:43 PM
Reply to: Message 298 by b.r. bloomberg
03-15-2011 6:25 PM


Re: Flood geology
isn't the scripture writings inspired by the same author
According to some, but in reality it is more like the imagination of at least several hundred men.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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bluescat48
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Message 305 of 445 (609285)
03-18-2011 1:45 AM
Reply to: Message 304 by Robert Byers
03-18-2011 1:02 AM


By observation and reasoning one can see there is enough water to have covered the whole earth.
First one should see not the present high mts, themselves from the flood year crashes of the continents, but instead much lower mts or hills. So covering them is not demanding of so much water as it would now.
Evidence please.
Second there would not of been the great depths of the seas as now. the seas were dug out by the action of the flood year and so after the flood there was room for the water to drain off the land.
Evidence Please
Then there is all the water contained in the pores of rock beneath the ground. i once read that if it was taken out the earh would be drowned by tens of feet or so.
Well you read wrong
then there is other concentrations of water in areas under the earth.
not much
then there is the underground water.
Tied to molecules & ions which is under extreme pressure & heat and would biol the ocean is released poaching all life on your ark
Then the water in the atmosphere, ice, surface .
Still not enough
So in fact there is plenty of water to have flooded the earth for about half of the flood year. Then it drained away.
Drained where?
Also, if the water was powerful enough to form the high mountains, that boat would have been swamped.
The whole idea is nothing but a myth. No evidence of any global flood in the last 65 million years at least.
No flood at the time the Biblical flood supposedly occurred, no genetic bottleneck, To much diversity of genetics, too many species of animals, Too small a boat to house the animals + all the food they would need for the duration. There are so many things that point away from the flood idea, that even with enough water, the idea is absurd.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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Message 310 of 445 (609771)
03-22-2011 11:51 PM
Reply to: Message 309 by Coyote
03-22-2011 10:39 PM


Re: Critical thinking and the flood
Good chart. Makes sense.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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Message 312 of 445 (609795)
03-23-2011 4:33 AM
Reply to: Message 311 by Robert Byers
03-23-2011 12:56 AM


Re: A test
All the rock below the K-T boundary is over 65,000,000 years old.
http://www.universetoday.com/39801/k-t-boundary/
The Above url writes:
What is the K-T boundary? K is actually the traditional abbreviation for the Cretaceous period, and T is the abbreviation for the Tertiary period. So the K-T boundary is the point in between the Cretaceous and Tertiary periods. Geologists have dated this period to about 65.5 million years ago.
Edited by bluescat48, : sticky key
Edited by bluescat48, : added ref

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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Message 323 of 445 (610153)
03-26-2011 10:40 PM
Reply to: Message 321 by Coyote
03-26-2011 2:24 PM


Re: Another problem
Evidently to the YECs, the Cambrian, Ordovician, Silurian, Devonian, Carboniferous, Permian, Triassic, Jurassic & Cretaceous are all the same thing.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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Message 324 of 445 (610154)
03-26-2011 10:42 PM
Reply to: Message 322 by Dr Adequate
03-26-2011 10:15 PM


Re: Another problem
Do they ever think things out? They come up with one idea to answer one problem and create several other problems in the process.
Edited by bluescat48, : ytpo

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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bluescat48
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Message 326 of 445 (610159)
03-26-2011 11:29 PM
Reply to: Message 325 by Coyote
03-26-2011 11:10 PM


Re: Another problem
The problem is that creationists KNOW THE ANSWER!
Unfortunately, when one asks them what the answer is, one gets gobbledigook.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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bluescat48
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Message 344 of 445 (610458)
03-30-2011 12:18 AM
Reply to: Message 327 by b.r. bloomberg
03-29-2011 9:59 PM


Re: Flood geology
What continuity? Books written years after the fact? by unknown authors?

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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Message 347 of 445 (610463)
03-30-2011 1:20 AM
Reply to: Message 335 by b.r. bloomberg
03-29-2011 10:44 PM


Biblical mishmosh
That is the main problem, everyone who reads it, interprets it his way and the rest just cling to what they are told it says by someone else who interprets it, his way.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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Message 363 of 445 (611478)
04-08-2011 6:05 AM
Reply to: Message 360 by Robert Byers
04-08-2011 12:35 AM


The population would of been in certain areas on earth and nothing would remain of them or their society. Its just the wilderness areas that are found in fossil form.
So then explain why there are no large mammals of any kind below the K-T line? No Giant Ground sloths, no mammoths, no camels, no saber tooth cats, not even one bone whereas whole skeletons of dinosaurs are found.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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bluescat48
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Message 370 of 445 (611934)
04-12-2011 9:41 AM
Reply to: Message 366 by Robert Byers
04-12-2011 2:28 AM


First i don't except the classification systems used. tHere were no dinos. They are just kinds of creatures. There are no mammals. just creatures with a few like details.
Just because you don't accept the classification of life doesn't make your ideas right. Whether the classification is right or wrong does not alter the point that there are no dinosaurs, ammonites, trilobites, or euripterids above the line and no cats, eagles, ground sloths, or humans below. If the dflood occurerred and all life existed at the time of the flood , then there would be all types of fossils below the line, regardless of relationship.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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Message 376 of 445 (612404)
04-15-2011 10:19 AM
Reply to: Message 374 by Robert Byers
04-15-2011 2:12 AM


Robert Byers writes:
No. Cooling of rocks etc is not geology.
Cooling of rocks is part of Geology
Babylon English writes:
geology[geology || dʒɪ'ɑlədʒɪ /-'ɒl-]n. study of the history and development of the Earth's crust
Concise Oxford English Dictionary writes:
geology■ noun
the science which deals with the physical structure and substance of the earth.
the geological features of a district.
Cooling of rocks is part of the physical structure of the earth. Geology is the study of the physical features of the earth and the chemical structure of those features, particularly in the sub sciences of Minerology (the study of minerals & their properties) & Petrology (the study of rocks & there properties).
Wikipedia writes:
Mineralogy is the study of chemistry, crystal structure, and physical (including optical) properties of minerals. Specific studies within mineralogy include the processes of mineral origin and formation, classification of minerals, their geographical distribution, as well as their utilization.
Emphasis =mine
Concise Oxford English Dictionary writes:
petrology[pɪ'trɒlədʒi]■ noun the study of the origin, structure, and composition of rocks.
Edited by bluescat48, : bold emphasis

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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