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Author Topic:   Creationism in science classrooms (an argument for)
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Message 475 of 609 (611678)
04-09-2011 8:32 PM
Reply to: Message 465 by Dawn Bertot
04-09-2011 4:35 PM


Ive set out an argument which states that creationism cannot fail because it is based in the observation of order, law and purpose in the reality of the natural world.
Define "order," "law," and "purpose" as you use them.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

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Message 489 of 609 (611711)
04-10-2011 10:12 AM
Reply to: Message 483 by Dawn Bertot
04-10-2011 3:41 AM


Order is simply the observable and testable materials in nature, that work in an orderly fashion, in conjuction with its parts, to produce a demonstratable purpose
You can't use the word "orderly" in defining "order." That's circular and meaningless. Please try again.
Simply disagreeing with such observable order, is not sufficient to deny its existence. it doesnt need your approval for it to be valid and observable
I haven't disagreed with anything yet. I'm trying to get you to define your terms so I can understand what you are talking about.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

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Message 492 of 609 (611745)
04-10-2011 7:38 PM
Reply to: Message 490 by Dawn Bertot
04-10-2011 6:56 PM


Acting like a moron doesnt help your cause
I bow to your expertise on the matter.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

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Message 541 of 609 (612103)
04-13-2011 9:30 AM
Reply to: Message 540 by frako
04-13-2011 8:24 AM


Re: I Feel Your Pain
Its just that willfully ignorant people drive me up the wall,...
I honestly don't think Dawn is willfully ignorant. I don't think he can help it. He isn't intellectually equipped to understand how stupid he is. But maybe I'm wrong.
...especially arrogant ones,...
Ok, arrogant he is.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

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Message 549 of 609 (612155)
04-13-2011 2:27 PM
Reply to: Message 519 by Dawn Bertot
04-12-2011 7:14 PM


Re: Off topic rudeness.
Logic class and science class are the samething, definitions aside,...
Blueberries and battleships are the same thing, definitions aside. My front yard and Halley's Comet are the same thing, definitions aside. You and a rational human being are the same this, definitions aside.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

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