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frako
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Message 247 of 445 (579929)
09-06-2010 5:14 PM
Reply to: Message 244 by Architect-426
09-06-2010 11:32 AM


Re: Sea-Floor "spreading" is false - Plate Tectonics is finished
im guessing that GPS data that america is moving away form Europe at about 2 cm per year (not actualy sure could be a bit more or less i forgot) would not convince you that plate Tectonics is still happening has happend and will be happening for a long long time.
just in case it might il go and find the data.
edit:found it
"Furthermore, the plates are actually moving today. They move about 1 inch per year (some places as much as 2.5 inches per year). Once upon a time that would have been difficult to measure, but not any more. The Global Positioning System (GPS) can pinpoint locations to millimeter accuracy, if the receiver is allowed to remain in one place long enough."
from http://www.ridgenet.net/~do_while/sage/v5i3f.htm
edit again: oh god and the article is written by a creationist he thinks that the collision happend faster in days gone by. (im guessing he dose not know that friction makes heat and if they went a lot faster i think it would melt the crust and then it would take a few thousand years for it to cool again)
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frako
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Message 287 of 445 (598306)
12-30-2010 8:37 AM
Reply to: Message 281 by Architect-426
12-29-2010 10:10 PM


Re: Sea-Floor "spreading" is false - Plate Tectonics is finished
Ek=1/2 m * v*v
Kinetic energy is 1/2 of mass multiplied by velocity that is multiplied upon itself.
if the speed of a plate is 2.05 cm a year
An estimate of the mass of an "average" continental lithospheric plate is 40.7x 10 21 kg or forty sextillion, seven hundred quintillion kilograms.
How much does a tectonic plate weigh? - Answers
So the energy would be
Ek=1/2((4070000000000000000000000)*((2.05/100/356/24/60/60)*2.05/100/356/24/60/60)= 54237030.68 J of energy only by its movement not to count in the flows underneath the plates that drive them
One joule in everyday life is approximately:
* the energy required to lift a small apple one metre straight up.
* the energy released when that same apple falls one metre to the ground.
* the energy released as heat by a person at rest, every hundredth of a second.
* the kinetic energy of a 50 kg human moving very slowly (0.2 m/s or 720 m/h).
* the kinetic energy of a tennis ball moving at 23 km/h (14 mph).
I think this time i got the math right
so you see you cannot dismiss the velocity even if it is so small because the mass is so huge.
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frako
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Message 292 of 445 (598460)
12-31-2010 5:55 AM
Reply to: Message 291 by Dr Adequate
12-30-2010 8:32 PM


Re: Sea-Floor "spreading" is false - Plate Tectonics is finished
I made it 8600 joules using the same figures.
lol seems a bit little tough it could be i was in a hurry. And yea the years got me im dyslectic sometimes i turn numbers around.
tough still goes to show that you cannot ignore movement and say there is no energy in physics sometimes you ignore some decimal places not the whole number and still you get the approximate result not the actual one.
Using the same logic as he has a cashier would not return change to him because coins hold little value and can be ignored.
And that energy was only the kinetic energy (the energy required to get of something moving whiteout friction to a cretin speed).

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frako
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Message 359 of 445 (611307)
04-07-2011 9:07 AM
Reply to: Message 352 by Robert Byers
04-05-2011 3:03 AM


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2,33 million ears ago the oldest Homo remains found (not sapiens or modern man but relatives that died out long before modern man arrived)
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I 65,35 million years ago K-T BOUNDARY the arrival of mammal like creatures and the going away of Dinosaur like creatures no man like creatures living at this age period. To make it easier for you to grasp the time distance from the KT boundary to the time the first "people" started to show up lets take that 1 year is one average step you make while walking. You would be 10 000 kilometers short of walking around the world on the equator, or in other words you would walk 3/4 around the world.
now take a look at the little dot of where human like creatures arrive on this planet they do not come CLOSE to the KT boundr or 65 million years ago and there is NO evidence of humans in any other ages before the KT boundary.
I other words even if the k-t boundary was a giant flood there would have been no HUMANS to build the damn ark in that time And no humans before the boundary to get your god pissed off in the first place do you get it now or do i have to come to your house and shove this knowledge down your throat with a plunger.

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frako
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Message 372 of 445 (611982)
04-12-2011 2:38 PM
Reply to: Message 371 by Hyroglyphx
04-12-2011 9:45 AM


Re: Withstanding the test of time
I can't believe this thread is still going strong.
Well its impossible to convince someone when they reject reality and substitute their own.
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frako
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Message 375 of 445 (612397)
04-15-2011 6:23 AM
Reply to: Message 374 by Robert Byers
04-15-2011 2:12 AM


Your dating stuff is speculative.
You can clearly see that because Robert Byers does not poses the intelectual capacity to understand it so it must be pure bullshit.
The evidence for creationist ideas here is simply interpretation of practical field results. yes thers a biblical foundation but still the point is that nothing contradicts and indeed suggests greatly the biblical flood story by the rock strata and the k-t line.
And still there where no human remains at the time to build a boat beat around the bush all you want that will not make the facts go away.
the rocks make a creationist case or at least a creationist case fits with what is found.
no it does not each line representing 1 million years
<---humans HUMAN.

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frako
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Message 394 of 445 (612735)
04-18-2011 6:17 AM
Reply to: Message 391 by OliverChant
04-18-2011 1:40 AM


Re: The great flood
The grand canyon is obvious proof that the flood did happen. Here's why: In the Grand Canyon, rock representing three main stages of evolution claimed to span 150 million years is missing. It is impossible that no sedimentary layers were formed over the extremely long period of 150 million years, and the reason evolutionists give for the missing layers is that erosion took place. One problem with this is that scientists have found no evidence of erosion on such a scale in the Grand Canyon. The layers either side of the 150 million years of missing rock are flat against each other, rather than having the uneven surface one would expect from erosion.
Yea cause scientists are lying bastards and if you go a bit notrth from the grand canyony you do not find the Navajo sandstone a younger lair that has not been fully eroded away and it is not true that if you go even further North You do not find younger rocks like scientists say you find In Bryce canyon
Common you will have to do better than scientists are lying cause they normally dont or they loose their grants.
And yes the search for evidence of this magical flood ended along time ago because no evidence was found if there was a magical flood then you should find evidence of this flood in your back yard.
can you tell me how your magical flood created this vally

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frako
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Message 411 of 445 (613013)
04-21-2011 6:18 AM
Reply to: Message 410 by Dr Adequate
04-21-2011 2:10 AM


Re: the flood i think was there
Well since we are by flood myths i got one from my people. Gotto tell the whole story though.
In the beginning the earth was dry and baron, so god decided to send his rooster to fertilize the land the rooster brought his egg from witch 7 rivers started to flow that filled the earth with water. So nature began to bloom whiteout mans endeavors and everybody was happy, people worked just to spend time when they wanted to and they had the rooster to remind them when to sleep, eat ..... They got tired of the roosters constant reminders and asked god to take him away so god granted their request before the rooster went he reminded them to beware the lake, so after the rooster went shit hit the fan after a while they wanted him back but it was too late they remembered his warning but did not understand it so they posrted guards around the lake, so after a while some started to question why there is exactly so much watter why not more or less arguing that some dont have enough some have to many and a guy came along said you are both right we should brake the egg and route as much water as they need to everyone, so they broke the egg and a grate flood happened almost everyone drowned except for one guard who held on to a grapevine the plant protected by the rooster the guard climbed the grapevine up to the heavens where he waited the flood out for 9 years, as than x the Rooster demanded that his people have to worship the grapevine and drink its wine for ever.
true legend

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