Did the Biblical Exodus ever happen?

Bingo! You make my point, Theodoric. No river formed the delta. It was formed suddenly by the Noaic catastrophic flood.

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Bingo! You make my point, Theodoric. No river formed the delta. It was formed suddenly by the Noaic catastrophic flood

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You are glossing over Theodoric's point. There is no delta. There's a beach. Why wasn't that beach formed like other beaches? So far, all you've said on the subject is that you believe the Noah's Flood explanation is better than a uniformitarianism based explanation.But what is the secular explanation for beach formation? Does the shallowness of the "wadi" assuming there is one there, have any impact on beach formation according to the scientific explanation?I don't believe you have any clue as to how geologists beieve beaches form, and accordingly that your personal judgment of whether a Flood based explanation is more feasible than the secular explanation is worthless.

I see what may be two channels, which is well short of the extensive network I would expect of a delta. And we still have no evidence that there was ever a massive sandbar, or that if there ever was such a thing, it was there at the time of the Exodus.Perhaps the beach is only in part a delta, with other processes building it up further. This is consistent with the limited extent of the river channels, and further undermines your unsupported assertion that the a catastrophe is needed.

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Admittedly, they don't necessarily view this as extensive as the Biblical account, but for sure, their work is supportive to the Noaic Flood. Nobody has hard empirical evidence about the flood details. Imo, cites such as Nuweiba are just another of many supporting corroborative evidences of the Biblical flood.

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That's somewhat less than completely honest. The only flood referred to is the filling of the Black Sea. The connection to the Biblical flood is only the largely discredited idea that the Biblical flood was a distorted account of that much smaller event. It does NOT support the idea that the Bible's Flood story is literally true.The rest of the paragraph is even worse. Of course you need to attribute magical powers to the flood to deny all the hard empirical evidence that says that it didn't happen. You also need to claim that the Flood obeys you to justify your claim of a massive sandbar at Nuweiba. But, to any rational, objective person these claims do not support each other. They only show the desperate lengths you will go to rather than accept that you are wrong.

So if sandbar was the incorrect term, then what was the correct one? Precisely what claim did you intend to make when you inadvertently used the term sandbar?Until you clarify this, please do not make any new claims regarding sandbars or submerged land bridges or the like, and do not include it in your claims about your "corroborated evidences supportive to your hypotheses." We do not need the scientists names or credentials, though if you wish to seek them out and provide them I have no objection. What I said I would ask for when the time came was the evidence these scientists used to reach their conclusions.But it is not yet time to consider this new unevidenced claim. You have other unevidenced claims that you first have to provide evidence for. I have several times asked for your evidence that your choice for Mount Sinai has a blackened top unlike other mountains of the region. Because I have made this request many times I would ask that you respond to this before responding to anything else.

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I zoomed in to the highest level of detail Google has.But I do not see a delta.I do see signs that there is occasional seasonal (likely) run off, but no signs of a river or a river delta. It does appear to be a flood plain, but that is a different critter than a river delta system.This is a desert, was a desert at the time of the supposed Biblical Exodus, and is a desert now.Look at the Google Earth images of the Nile Delta, the Mississippi Delta, note the differences. There are no signs that there is any river or that there has ever been a river there.Rivers get occupied, even regular seasonal rivers get exploited, but there is no evidence that I know of that Nuweiba has ever had a river or even a steady water supply other than maybe a well.Yes, you can see that they likely do get very heavy run off when it does rain, but any sand or dirt that gets deposited then gets eroded by drought, sun and winds that do define a desert.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

Looks more like an alluvial fan to me. I am not sure whether it can be called an alluvial fan since the debris gets deposited into the sea, but the processes that would form this are more in line with an alluvial fan than a delta.I guess we need a geographer to weigh in on this.

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Winds funneled by the canyon structure could also help explain what is seen.But still I see no evidence of a river or of any sandbar or that the Gulf of Aqaba was somehow filled in at that point in any recent (last 10,000) years.

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The only logical place I can find along the gulf of Aqaba, based on maps and nautical charts, is at its southern most part. East of Sharm El Sheik intl airport is a series of reefs and islands/sandbars leading across gulf to Saudi Arabia.The depth or the water off the beach at Nuweiba is up too 800 feet deep in places.200 feet is the deepest where I say it looks more plausible, and its only that deep for a short section of the potential crossing.The sea of reeds theory seems the most plausible out of all the research I have done, Yam Suph - Wikipedia Wyatt's seems the most far out.

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You’ve lost me. You do understand that not all deserts have dunes? So which desert are you talking about and what types of dunes are present? How big is this desert and what percentage is covered in dunes?

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Understood. Though in fairness we could probably have say most Americans think to a large extent that way. I attribute this to generations of hearing ‘Everyone’s entitled to an opinion’. I think like many other people when he hears desert he thinks Sahara.

Well in that comment you confirm that ignorance is rampant. The Sahara is very diversified. The Sahara is not all sand dunes.

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The desert landforms of the Sahara are shaped by wind or by occasional rains and include sand dunes and dune fields or sand seas (erg), stone plateaus (hamada), gravel plains (reg), dry valleys, and salt flats (shatt or chott).

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I was mistakenly equating a sandbar with a delta, applying the terms as synonymous. That's all. I'm admitting my mistake. Hopefully that can be put to rest.Regarding the mountain, in Message 506 I said:

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As to the blackened mountain, there was some question about what gave the mountain the dark appearance. The fact remains that there is a dark topped mountain in the right secession of ducts corroborating my acclaimed evidences

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All I'm stating about the mountain is that it does appear black topped and it is in the right place in the row. That's it. My understanding is that researchers are not allowed access for study on it.Moving on, this site has been brought to my attention by a friend, As I understand starting at the bottom of pg. 8 of this site, the structures there are a flood water reclamation project for reclaiming flood water when the floods come. The proper term for Nuweiba, therefore, would be a flood fan or flood debris fan rather than a delta fan perse.I'm beginning to understand that a delta, perse, is a term applicable to a flowing river whereas a flood fan forms from flood water exclusively.In Message 533 are my points why I consider the flood fan (corrected term) to be a relatively recent catastrophic event rather than being formed by an aged process, (abe: and my reason for the sudden drop off at the flood fan's edge to a deeper depth.) Edited by Buzsaw, : No reason given.Edited by Buzsaw, : As noted in context

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So in other words. No evidence?

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