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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
I love Stravinsky, but can't stand Wagner.
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
On the political chart, I'm close to Gandhi - no surprises there - but I like Wagner.
I rode off into the sunset, went all the way around the world and now I'm back where I started.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8513 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
Here's a composite of some well known composers ... Hey, where's Willie Nelson!
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Hey, welcome back Ringo!
Long time no see and missed What were your numbers so I can put them on the composite chart? Enjoy. Edited by RAZD, : ... by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. • • • Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click) • • •
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Thanks dronestar,
That makes the composite picture update look like this:
(that smilie represents Percy ...) Enjoy by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. • • • Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click) • • •
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DevilsAdvocate Member (Idle past 3101 days) Posts: 1548 Joined: |
RAZD,
Here are my numbers: Economic Left/Right: -4.00Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.05 I guess I am in Ghandi's camp as well. "It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 734 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
My numbers in July 2010
L/R -7.62U/D -5.88
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Huntard Member (Idle past 2295 days) Posts: 2870 From: Limburg, The Netherlands Joined: |
Die red bastards, die!
Am I really the next to one "rightest" person on here. Wow.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 284 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Economic Left/Right: -4.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.36 |
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Adding the posts since Dronestar and ones found on Politcal Compass, Political Identity Crisis and What is Your Worldview? to the ones previously compiled here I have a new composite image:
(that smilie still represents Percy ...) Note that this shows bias for those willing to provide their results, and thus it is a self-selecting sample of the population here at EvC, which is a self-selecting sample of the population at large. Most of those that have verbally refused to answer would, imho, likely score similar to Buz. There could also be a bias in the questions, with results showing people generally left and lower than a less biased scoring, but the results are relative in any event and do not represent any hard and fast score. Enjoy. list of results: if you were missed let me know.
Politcal CompassHyroglyphx Message 1 ec= +2.62 & soc= -4.97 Dr Adequate Message 2 ec= -3.6 & soc= -3.5 (approx from graph) Wounded King Message 3 ec= =7.00 & soc= -6.62 Huntard Message 4 ec= -3.7 & soc= +1.3 (approx from graph) jar Message 6 ec= -6.88 & soc= -5.23 Phat Message 7 ec= -3.2 & soc= -3.0 (approx from graph) frako Message 8 ec= -5.9 & soc= -7.8 (approx from graph) nwr Message 10 ec= -3.8 & soc= -4.8 (approx from graph) ApostateAbeMessage 18 ec= -2.6 & soc= +2.6 (approx from graph) Mr JackMessage 13 ec= -6.62 & soc= -5.49 jon Message 21 ec= -5.5 & soc= -3.1 (approx from graph) ZenMonkey Message 27 ec= -6.6 & soc= -4.8 (approx from graph) Minnemooseus Message 28 ec= -4.7 & soc= -7.5 (approx from graph) Buzsaw Message 38 ec= 2.00 & soc= 1.08 xongsmith Message 41 ec= -6.0 & soc= -6.1 Are You an Authoritarian?anglagard Message 30 ec=-4.75 & soc= -7.79 RAZD Message 77 ec= -7.62 & soc= -7.03 cavediver Message 80 ec= -1.75 & soc= -5.53 coyote Message 82 ec= -3.3 & soc= +0.8 (approx from graph) Huntard Message 85 ec= -4.8 & soc= +2.8 (approx from graph) bluescat48 Message 87 ec= -4.7 & soc= -7.2 (approx from graph) Theodoric Message 89 ec= -7.50 & soc= -5.54 jar Message 90 ec= -5.50 & soc= -5.03 Hyroglyphx Message 101 ec= -4.4 & soc= +5.3 (approx from graph) Wounded King Message 102 ec= -7.00 & soc= -6.62 AZPaul Message 104 ec= -0.38 & soc= -2.97 hooah212002 Message 111 ec= -5.62 & soc= -6.26 CosmicChimp Message 112 ec= -6.2 & soc= -9.9 (approx from graph) dronester Message 113 ec= -6.00 & soc= -5.08 DevilsAdvocate Message 126 ec= -4.00 & soc= -4.05 Coragyps Message 127 ec= -7.62 & soc= -5.88 Dr Adequate Message 129 ec= -4.12 & soc= -4.36 Political Identity CrisisMadfish Message 20 ec= -7.63 & soc= -7.95 brennakimi Message 31 ec= -6.13 & soc= -7.33 Michael Message 32 ec= -6.38 & soc= -6.77 RAZD Message 33 ec= -8.63 & soc= -7.69 What is Your Worldview?Hangdawg13 Message 54 ec= ~0 & soc= ~-3 (from comments) contracycle Message 63 ec= -8.88 & soc= -5.69 ifen Message 66 ec= -5.88 & soc= -4.97 Phat Message 67 ec= -2.00 & soc= -1.49 by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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bluescat48 Member (Idle past 4189 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: |
I always wondered why I liked Bartk
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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Tram law Member (Idle past 4704 days) Posts: 283 From: Weed, California, USA Joined: |
I decided to mess with this a little. I decided to use the test to see the highest Authoritarian score I could get. I answered either Strongly Disagree or Strongly Agree only and with questions that can be answered in a clearly conservative fashion, I would mark Strongly Agree. Such as the question regarding whether the Christian Religion should be in taught in schools, I marked Strongly Agreed.
So, in messing with things I got this score: Economic Left/Right: 6.62Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 8.15 However, I was doing this to see what it would take to see how high of an Authoritarian score I could get. So I guess the lesson is this thing is not a true test of finding out one's political leanings and can be easily messed with. And now I wonder if there is anything out there than can actually provide a real accurate score without being messed with. I don't think there is.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
I answered either Strongly Disagree or Strongly Agree only and with questions that can be answered in a clearly conservative fashion, I would mark Strongly Agree. Such as the question regarding whether the Christian Religion should be in taught in schools, I marked Strongly Agreed.
You seem to be making the assumption that conservative=authoritarian. The point of the exercise seems to be that they are not equal. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Tram law Member (Idle past 4704 days) Posts: 283 From: Weed, California, USA Joined: |
In one sense they are very authoritarian. But it all depends on how one defines authoritarian.
In partisan politics, of course, the claim will always be something akin to "the other party is the one who's Authoritarian and mine is not". In regards to the test I think if you did the opposite you'd get a similar score on the other side of the graph. But as for me, my own personal definition of Authoritarian, when it comes to politics, is that any party who wants to increase the size of government and increase it's powers over the citizens is an authoritarian party, regardless of the motivations behind it. I'm sure there are probably some weaknesses you can point out, but for the large part it pretty much bears out. Such as when you consider the dictionary definition: 1. favoring complete obedience or subjection to authority as opposed to individual freedom: authoritarian principles; authoritarian attitudes. 2.of or pertaining to a governmental or political system, principle, or practice in which individual freedom is held as completely subordinate to the power or authority of the state, centered either in one person or a small group that is not constitutionally accountable to the people. 3.exercising complete or almost complete control over the will of another or of others: an authoritarian parent. But for the most part, political tests like those shouldn't be trusted because they can always be manipulated.
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