The Movie Paranormal Activity

Well, thank you but so far you haven't presented anything.It's fine to say "maybe" but it is also totally meaningless.So far you haven't shown me ANYTHING that might even imaginatively point to paranatural or supernatural or anything beyond "Unknown".It really is that simple.

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If you'd care to explain why evidence of immaterial but detectable beings with the personality and memories of deceased humans wouldn't constitute as something that points to the paranormal maybe we can continue the discussion. If you just want to keep repeating this refrain and nothing more there is no discussion happening.

Because I cannot imagine how you could get such evidence, and even if you got such evidence I can see no reason it would not just be classified as "Unknown".

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Are you are using a non-standard meaning for the terms ‘imagine’ and ‘might’ when you require that someone actually first produce a result?

I am saying I cannot imagine a method to test if something is paranormal or supernatural.It really is that simple.

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If "you" were the immaterial yet detectable entity with the personality of a deceased human would that still necessarily be classified as "unknown" or would that point to the supernatural?

Ask me after that happens. I may be able to tell then.But then I'm also not sure how, even if I was some paranatural or supernatural critter I would be able to communicate with you or how you would be able to test to determine that I was paranatural, supernatural or just unknown.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

You could say that about any unique and hypothetically enlightening experience couldn't you? Well if "you" have crossed from being natural to supernatural there must be some interraction between the two states must there not?Otherwise how did "you" get from one to the other?Some form of duality would seem to be inherent in your once-I-am-dead scenario whether you realise it or not.

What is the difficulty here? A dead relative visits you, and tells you all about the afterlife, and shares a few verifiable nuggets of intel (such as where their diary can be found etc). Are you telling me your imagination is really so stunted you cannot imagine a dead relative appearing in a 'ghostly' form and talking to you?

Again, I cannot even hazard a guess what it will be like after I am dead until ... after I am dead.I will repeat yet again, MAYBE, after I am dead, I MAY be able to tell if something is paranormal or supernatural.Ask me then.

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I can imagine myself experiencing something like that but absolutely no way to tell if it was just hallucination, a bad burrito or anything else. Should such a thing happen I would classify it as ... "unknown".

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How do you normally discriminate hallucinations from reality? Normally you just run a heuristic of normality and don't bother to question those things. When something extraordinary happens, and they are not alone, what method do people often resort to to tell if something really did just happen?They see if someone else experienced the same thing in a consistent way.Experiments to confirm this are trivially easy to imagine.

Okay.But still irrelevant.I still would not have a way to assign it to paranatural or supernatural. I would be able to say I had a strange experience, something unknown happened.AbE:Let me try another approach.Should something like that happen we can begin testing different scenarios.For example, if I have not eaten a burrito in the previous 72 hours the "Bad Burrito" explanation can be eliminated.Hallucination is far more difficult to eliminate.But the best we can do is eliminate possibilities, eventually ending up with "I don't know what caused it".Edited by jar, : add more.

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I'm using the words as generally used. If you want to use your own personal understanding I can't help. Here is from the wikipedia article on the paranormal.

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Paranormal is a general term (coined ca. 1915—1920[1][2]) that designates experiences that lie outside "the range of normal experience or scientific explanation"[3] or that indicates phenomena that are understood to be outside of science's current ability to explain or measure.[1][4] Paranormal phenomena are distinct from certain hypothetical entities, such as dark matter and dark energy, only insofar as paranormal phenomena are inconsistent with the world as already understood through empirical observation coupled with scientific methodology.[5]

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And it goes on to give examples:

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A ghost is a manifestation of the spirit or soul of a person.[11] Alternative theories expand on that idea and include belief in the ghosts of deceased animals. Sometimes the term "ghost" is used synonymously with any spirit or demon,[12] however in popular usage the term typically refers to a deceased person's spirit.

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It seems using that definition, having confirmed that you are experiencing a manifestation of of a deceased person...you'd have confirmed the paranormal. That doesn't mean it is suddenly 'known' about completely. It is still somewhat of a mystery, of course. But it would meet the criteria of any normally used definition of paranormal, yes?You might argue the metaphysics of it, but natural common sense every day used by normal English speakers language would be comfortable with the tag 'paranormal', which (as near as I can tell) the OP was referring to.abe: Re: Your edit: I'm not suggesting we know what caused it. Only that we have identified 'it' occurred and that 'it' falls under the kinds of things the word 'paranormal' covers under normal English (not a tortuous metaphysicians language)Edited by Modulous, : No reason given.

But I have no folder for paranormal or supernatural. You might but I don't.

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