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Dr Jack
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Message 3 of 85 (615541)
05-14-2011 6:53 AM


The difference between the two pouches is not rotation, it's the position of the opening relative to the front and rear of the pouch. The common ancestor likely had a small pouch with a rearward opening, in Kangaroos the pouch lengthened with the opening sitting to the front, in wombats it lengthened with opening remaining rearward.
Probably.

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Message 5 of 85 (615543)
05-14-2011 7:54 AM
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Percy writes:
You answer that it wasn't the pouch that rotated but the opening that moved from rear to front. How does that happen with gradual stepwise evolution?
By stepwise changes in the growth rate/time of the sections that form the front and rear flaps of the pouch, of course.

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Message 41 of 85 (617274)
05-27-2011 5:24 AM
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05-27-2011 2:53 AM


Re: Hang on ....
As usual when answering your posts I find myself wondering whether you can actually read. Also, will you please start a thread on your marsupial ideas so we can discuss them properly?
Robert Byers writes:
Nothing was witnessed and so my fold of skin is a good option for what is more likely.
This is simply not true. If I don't witness a car crash that doesn't suddenly make it being caused by a giant picking up the two cars and slamming them together suddenly likely. We don't need to directly witness things to understand what is likely, or unlikely, to occur.
You have it spinning it around and then presto it finds its right place as it is now.
Except, as every evolutionist in this thread has said, we don't think there was any spinning at all. How is it that you've managed to post in this thread without understanding that?
You can always say its moving but theres no evidence of this.
The only evidence is what is now found.
And that evidence clearly shows that organisms that share a common ancestor have differences in the shape, size and positioning of opening of their pouch.
marsupialism is simply about reproduction. the change is exactly why there was a change in creatures otherwise spot on identical to others on earth.
This is still as untrue as every other time you've asserted it. Will you please start a thread where we can discuss it.

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