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Author Topic:   Luke and Matthews geneologies
Buzsaw
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Message 124 of 168 (61560)
10-19-2003 1:24 AM
Reply to: Message 120 by sidelined
10-16-2003 12:14 PM


I haven't gotten around to read this thread, but in the meantime this response to your deleted post over in the Isaiah 7 thread:
quote: Sideline:
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I am curoius as to how vital the prophesy concerning jesus as having descended from david in a direct blood line was since that was not fulfilled.
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Buzz response:
Check out the following link on the two geneologies of Jesus and Mary. I pretty much agree with it except that it may be possible that the "Joseph" at the end of Mary's geneology could mean that her father's name may have also been Joseph and it ended with him as women were not generally included in geneology lists in the Bible.
http://www.carm.org/questions/2geneologies.htm

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Buzsaw
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Message 125 of 168 (61561)
10-19-2003 1:33 AM
Reply to: Message 123 by Brian
10-16-2003 12:59 PM


Jesus never claims to be the father, though he says he and the father are one in John 14. This is a qualified statement meaning they are one via the Holy Spirit, in the same vein that all believers are one with Christ in the Spirit. Later on in that same chapter (John 14) Jesus says, "My father is greater than I." He never assumes the place of the father no does he sit in the place of the father on the throne of Heaven, but on his right hand where he interceeds for believers as well as his other functions.

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Buzsaw
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Message 127 of 168 (61565)
10-19-2003 2:14 AM
Reply to: Message 126 by sidelined
10-19-2003 1:42 AM


Sideline, this is just one of hundreds of reasons to believe the Bible is a supernatural book. An honest and thorough nearly three decade study of it's fulfilled prophesies as well as those visable on the world scene horizon today has me convinced beyond the shadow of a doubt that it is reliable. Yah, there are minor infractions here and there due to things like human error in keeping exactly what was written origionally exact, but these are insignicant in light of the overwhelming evidence for it's credibility. Comparing this book to the Quran, the Book of Mormon, or even your science or physics book so full of unprovens would be like comparing a modern Alexia to a Model T Ford for performance.

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