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Peter
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Message 91 of 93 (615908)
05-18-2011 6:39 AM
Reply to: Message 89 by Robert Byers
05-18-2011 3:21 AM


Re: Clean and Unclean Animals ...
Robert Byers writes:
Peter writes:
Is the clean referring to the 'kosher' animals? Or did that get defined later on?
If it IS as the above then there are mammals on the unclean list (pigs, bats, ... probably some more).
Your post suggest you are happy with the fossil record as a source of chronology of species, in which case why are there no human remains alongside dinos if they co-existed? Some dinos were about man-sized so hydro-dynamic sorting won't wash there.
Nothing to do with kosher.
The fossil record simply indicates the creatures living at the time that area with its sediment/life within was fossilized.
The areas that have fossils need only be seen as special segments of the world at that time. so just the wilderness areas and not close to humans. likewise the humans lived in areas overcome and changed by the sediment loads or separation of the continents.
I never expect or want to find humans living with these great assemblages of creatures. Dino fossils are from the wilderness areas on the old earth.
For the record i don't accept there are dinos. Rather there are just kinds and some kinds had like features. they just define the creatures by the few like features. Just as their are no such groups as mammals or reptiles.
Dino, mammal, reptile ... they are just conveniences so that we all understand what we are talking about.
Genetic research is indeed finding areas where supposed relationships may not be as expected (although I always though hippos looked more like whales with legs than anything else ... but that's just me).
Wilderness areas???:
Given the size and supposed strenght of the kinds formerly known as dinosaurs I would find it highly unlikely that man would not have found a way to tame and harness them.
In which case we might expect some artifact of man within the same strata as the kinds formerly known as dinos.

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Message 92 of 93 (615912)
05-18-2011 8:16 AM
Reply to: Message 89 by Robert Byers
05-18-2011 3:21 AM


Re: Clean and Unclean Animals ...
Hi Robert,
This is the text of the message I posted to you over at Wombat Pouch:
As in your messages in other threads, this is just a collection of unsupported assertions. Your inability or unwillingness to support them will gradually turn this thread from discussion of the topic into cajoling you to support them and/or mockery of you, which we're not going to do again. Please post no messages to this thread that ignore any requests that you support what you claim.
Any and all viewpoints are welcome at EvC Forum, but stating your position is the beginning, not the end. Those who can do nothing more than state and restate their position over and over again while making up more and more should find something else to do.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 93 of 93 (616039)
05-19-2011 2:56 AM
Reply to: Message 86 by Peter
05-12-2011 7:14 AM


Re: Clean and Unclean Animals ...
Is the clean referring to the 'kosher' animals?
In a word, yes. The word used for "clean" in Genesis 7 is טָהוֹר --- the same word is used to describe ceremonial cleanliness of food, as in Deuteronomy 14:20: "But of all clean fowls ye may eat".
{Many of the recent messages have at least mentioned the words dinosaur(s) or dino(s), maintaining at least a trace of a connection to the topic theme. This little tangent, however, has no such connection. - Adminnemooseus}
Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Off-topic banner and following note.

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