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Dr Adequate
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Message 13 of 313 (616169)
05-20-2011 2:52 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by Coyote
05-20-2011 12:00 AM


More leftie nonsense.
They (you?) just can't abide the thought of having any contrary opinions.
Of course, they dissimulate this under the cover of complaining about Fox's demonstrable factual inaccuracy, but fortunately you can read minds.

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Message 24 of 313 (616240)
05-20-2011 2:09 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by riVeRraT
05-20-2011 1:02 PM


Facts are facts, but I think there is no document written by human hands that isn't biased in some sort of fashion. They are 50million ways of reporting the same story without lying, yet still putting your biased twist to it.
And then there are a further few million ways of reporting a story and lying. Or, indeed, just plain ol' inventing the story in the first place. Bias may perhaps be unavoidable, but there is a line between that and outright falsehood, and it is not unreasonable to suggest that journalists should stop short of it.

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Message 76 of 313 (616319)
05-20-2011 8:13 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by New Cat's Eye
05-20-2011 2:44 PM


Its a lot like guns, riVerRrat...
The people who want to ban "Assault Rifles" don't know the first thing about guns or what makes one more dangerous to another.
You could put a pimped out .22 with a front grip, folding stock, and a banana mag next to an AA-12, and they'll think the 22 is worse because it looks like an "Assault Rife"!! ZOMG!
And most people who don't want terrorists to use biological weapons against the USA couldn't tell anthrax from baking soda. They would in fact be more alarmed by baking soda in a jar labeled ANTHRAX than by anthrax in a jar labeled BAKING SODA. But I don't see how this invalidates their position.
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Message 86 of 313 (616409)
05-21-2011 4:46 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by Theodoric
05-21-2011 4:20 PM


Soros
Soros is Jewish, so it stands to reason he must be up to something evil. Rupert Murdoch is Aryan and is therefore an angel of light.
Back in real life, Soros' investment fund owns a whopping 7.28% of the Times Mirror Group. And ... er ... that seems to be it for media ownership. So basically he must be controlling all the rest of the media by Jew Magic. They can do that, you know. Their big non-Caucasian noses give them powers.

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Message 87 of 313 (616410)
05-21-2011 4:48 PM
Reply to: Message 83 by Buzsaw
05-21-2011 2:51 PM


Re: Fair And Balanced News
Coyote, I know that neither you or I want to be grouped together on science, but I evened out the one-er someone gave your message with a five-er. I completely concur.
Coyote, Buzsaw is agreeing with you.
You should regard this as a wake-up call.

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Message 112 of 313 (616710)
05-24-2011 5:25 AM
Reply to: Message 96 by New Cat's Eye
05-23-2011 12:33 PM


To continue with that analogy, I'm bitching about people who don't know anything about chemistry but want to ban jars of white powder.
There probably is a law preventing you from mailing people baking powder labeled as anthrax, which would be a more accurate analogy to the situation you describe. And I find in that situation little cause for concern. So it means that I can't own "a pimped out .22 with a front grip, folding stock, and a banana mag". Good heavens, why would I want to? Today they deprive me of the front grip on my .22, tomorrow they'll make me take the rudder off my car. But I regard the prospect with stoical equanimity.

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Message 136 of 313 (616844)
05-24-2011 5:23 PM
Reply to: Message 114 by New Cat's Eye
05-24-2011 9:23 AM


Not really. The 22 was a firearm before, its just been jazzed up with decorations.
That's exactly why my analogy is better. Baking powder pimped to look like anthrax = a 22 pimped to look like a more dangerous weapon. Absent the pimping, both remain legal.
I'm sure there's a limit somewhere... my point is that it should be determined by people who actually know something about guns and not by people who know almost nothing about guns.
If the language of the AWB prohibits a pimped 22, I'm not sure that that indicates that it was drafted by people who knew nothing about guns. Maybe they just didn't care one way or another about pimped 22s. What you seem to be suggesting is that they actually thought that such absurd chimeras are more dangerous than an ordinary 22 and made law on that basis; but I doubt that that was the case.
Irrelevant.
I think it is relevant. If a ban on assault weapons also inadvertently bans something which no-one in their right minds wants or currently possesses, then the phrase "no harm, no foul" comes to mind.
Your apathy to a gradual errosion of your freedoms isn't an argument for pursuing it.
And when I trim my toenails, I am equally apathetic towards the gradual erosion of my feet.
It doesn't really matter if you personally care or not. But once again the discussion is going from 'who should decide which guns to ban' to 'why should guns be allowed'
I never mentioned the subject. My sole point was that when it comes to the question of who should decide, you are setting the bar of technical expertise too high. It is surely not necessary for the decision-makers to have the ability to recognize exactly how dangerous a gun is by means of a cursory visual inspection; just as the same applies to white powder.

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Message 153 of 313 (621059)
06-23-2011 7:23 AM
Reply to: Message 148 by Coyote
06-22-2011 11:52 PM


Re: Book: Liberal Media Distorts News Bias
Some facts would have been nice, but since opinions are all you've got, let's look at this one:
"Fox News is clearly more conservative than ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC and National Public Radio. Some will conclude that 'therefore, this means that Fox News has a conservative bias,'" he writes in an advance copy provided to Washington Whispers. "Instead, maybe it is centrist, and possibly even left-leaning ..."
Now if Fox is "left-leaning", then it is strange that conservatives are always so keen to defend them. Given that they also lie like Ananias, surely you guys should be denouncing them as a hotbed of deceitful socialistic propaganda; the Pravda of American political discourse.
Meanwhile, it seems that there is a big gap in the market for a news channel which really does cater to a right-wing demographic; I am slightly surprised that no media mogul has yet taken advantage of this valuable commercial opportunity. Apparently the law of supply and demand is broken.
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Message 154 of 313 (624033)
07-15-2011 1:35 PM


Occasionally Forget
The Simpsons isn't what it was, but Fox News is still funny.
Justifying Bush's foreign policy, Fox News host Eric Bolling said:
America was certainly safe between 2000 and 2008. I don’t remember any terrorist attacks on American soil during that period of time.
Meanwhile, here's how they're spinning the phone hacking scandal:
We know it’s a hacking scandal, shouldn’t we get beyond it and deal with the issue of hacking? We have a serious hacking problem in this country, Dilenschneider reminded us. Listing several companies like CitiGroup that have been hacked into, Dilenschneider asked, Are they getting the same kind of attention for hacking that took place less than a year ago that News Corp is getting today?
Yeah, why aren't corporations which were the victims of hacking being subjected to the same sort of scrutiny as the corporation that perpetrated it? That is just so unfair.
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Message 159 of 313 (660443)
04-25-2012 6:47 PM


Liberals Push Socialism In Outer Space
That's an actual Fox News headline. See if you can connect it to the story.
They're mad, aren't they? They've just collectively gone nuts.

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Message 177 of 313 (660874)
04-30-2012 4:45 AM
Reply to: Message 171 by Artemis Entreri
04-29-2012 6:53 PM


Re: que sera sera
Faux news...lol...that is sssooo creative.
did you come up with that one by yourself?
The phrase "Did you come up with that one by yourself?" gets 682,000 google hits.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 179 of 313 (660877)
04-30-2012 7:20 AM
Reply to: Message 178 by RAZD
04-30-2012 7:06 AM


Re: que sera sera
and the phrase "faux news" gets "About 53,200,000 results"
No it doesn't. The two words faux and news get that many results in conjunction. The phrase "faux news" only gets 1,060,000.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 183 of 313 (660956)
05-01-2012 6:46 AM
Reply to: Message 182 by Panda
05-01-2012 5:46 AM


Re: que sera sera
Surely all these numbers are irrelevant?
AE accused jar of being unoriginal.
He stupidly did so using an unoriginal phrase.
Dr. A wasn't playing "who got the most hits on google", he was playing "point at Artemis Entreri the hypocritical idiot".
I wouldn't have put it quite like that, I like Artemis and was merely joshing him. But yes, RAZD seems to be radically missing my point, which was in fact that.
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 199 of 313 (661074)
05-01-2012 7:46 PM
Reply to: Message 190 by Artemis Entreri
05-01-2012 2:21 PM


Re: que sera sera
yeah, so? what is your point?
That you have chosen an singularly unoriginal way to point out that RAZD is being unoriginal.

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Message 200 of 313 (661075)
05-01-2012 7:50 PM


Department Of You Don't Say
Rupert Murdoch 'Not A Fit Person' To Run Major Company, Phone Hacking Report Says
A parliamentary committee has judged that Rupert Murdoch is "not a fit person" to run a major international company such as News Corp.
[...] The committee wrote that Murdoch "turned a blind eye and exhibited willful blindness to what was going on in his companies and publications," and concluded that he "is not a fit person to exercise the stewardship of a major international company."
Well I never. Get away.

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