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Author Topic:   We are DOOMED, Sat may 21, 2011
crashfrog
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Message 67 of 229 (616329)
05-20-2011 8:42 PM
Reply to: Message 63 by Buzsaw
05-20-2011 8:30 PM


Re: More Bad Stuff Ahead For The US
Due to the Obama regime's throwing Israel under the bus
Yeah, it really sucked how Obama did nothing but affirm the same Israel policy the US has continued unchanged for a decade!
I predicted way back when he was a candidate that he would throw Israel under the bus, being a stealth Muslim.
Wow, you mean a Buz prediction didn't pan out? Shit, what are the odds?

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crashfrog
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Message 71 of 229 (616334)
05-20-2011 9:18 PM
Reply to: Message 70 by Buzsaw
05-20-2011 9:02 PM


Re: More Bad Stuff Ahead For The US
He still remains largely unvetted as we still don't know who he is
I don't understand.
What don't you know about "who he is"? Please be specific.

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crashfrog
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Message 74 of 229 (616342)
05-20-2011 9:38 PM
Reply to: Message 73 by Buzsaw
05-20-2011 9:22 PM


Re: More Bad Stuff Ahead For The US
For example:
Never have previous administrations cow-towed to Israel's enemies and undermined Israel to the extent that this regime has.
That's not an "example", that's your opinion.
I doubt that any previous administration arranged for Israel's Prime Minister to eat alone while on an official visit to the US.
You can doubt it, but it happened. It's just that when a white Republican did it, nobody cared. But people like you are so desperate to confirm your pre-existing ideology that Obama "hates Israel", and so you turn every event - even the non-events, like what Obama said into his speech - into "undermining Israel."
If Israel really is so fragile that they country is doomed the first time its prime minister has to eat lunch on his own, then they have much larger problems than US support for their settlement policy.

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crashfrog
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Message 151 of 229 (616568)
05-23-2011 10:44 AM
Reply to: Message 149 by fearandloathing
05-23-2011 10:29 AM


Re: Camping Speaks
If any of his followers kill themselves I wonder how he would feel??
At least one already tried; she cut the throats of her two little girls and then tried to do the same to herself. Luckily, she failed in all attempts; they all lived.
I think this is exactly the kind of inciting speech that should be prosecuted.

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crashfrog
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Message 154 of 229 (616576)
05-23-2011 12:16 PM
Reply to: Message 152 by 1.61803
05-23-2011 10:55 AM


Re: Camping Speaks
. However, prosecuting idiots for saying idiotic things leading other idiots to do harm to themselves or others is folly.
Why do you think she was an idiot?
Why couldn't she have been an entirely regular person incited to a harmful, criminal act by another person acting with reckless disregard for human life and public safety?
Are you saying that speech can never be a criminal act? What about fraud? What about saying "I'll give you $10,000 to commit murder on my behalf"? Those are both examples of criminalized speech acts. I don't think someone who hears the latter and then goes off and commits murder is an "idiot" who is solely responsible for their actions. Telling someone you'll pay them to commit murder is nothing but a speech act, but it also makes you party to a crime.
I believe Camping is party to this crime, as well.

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crashfrog
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Message 162 of 229 (616606)
05-23-2011 2:30 PM
Reply to: Message 161 by Buzsaw
05-23-2011 2:27 PM


Re: More Bad Stuff Ahead For The US
I said he would undermine Israel, restrict energy production, push the socialist agenda and work to end nationalism and advance the new world order. I said he would cause energy costs to rise. He did, and they are still on the rise. He is undermining the American $$ by his stimulus and spending spree.
Except that he hasn't done any of that.

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crashfrog
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Message 174 of 229 (616691)
05-24-2011 1:06 AM
Reply to: Message 170 by Buzsaw
05-23-2011 10:03 PM


Re: More Bad Stuff Ahead For The US
Obama who is pursuring Israel to give up their land, the apple of Jehovah's eye.
How much land is Israel's land? Please be specific.

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crashfrog
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Message 187 of 229 (616784)
05-24-2011 11:50 AM
Reply to: Message 186 by Buzsaw
05-24-2011 11:06 AM


Re: More Bad Stuff Ahead For The US
What other president has insisted that Israel pull back to the pre-1967 borders as Obama has?
Every other one, including Reagan and George Bush.
That's the amazing thing about this controversy - "1969 borders plus land swaps" has always been the stated policy goal of the US in regards to Israel. Absolutely no US Presidents have ever publicaly embraced an "Israel can have whatever land it wants" policy.
"1969 plus land swaps" is what it's always been, Buz. It just wasn't on Fox News when it was Bush's policy, so you didn't know to be outraged about it.
What other president has treated Israel's prime minister as shabbily as Obama has on visits to the US?
You've not presented even a single example of that being the case; you've simply uttered untruths.

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crashfrog
Member (Idle past 1488 days)
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From: Silver Spring, MD
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Message 191 of 229 (616847)
05-24-2011 5:33 PM
Reply to: Message 188 by Granny Magda
05-24-2011 1:04 PM


Re: More Bad Stuff Ahead For The US
The US inflation rate is about 3.2%. That is hardly runaway inflation.
Buz thinks there's double-secret invisible inflation that manifests itself entirely in rising energy costs and not, say, as rising wages.
It apparently has yet to occur to him that rising energy prices might just indicate rising demand for energy.

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