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Tanypteryx
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Message 91 of 313 (616420)
05-21-2011 8:10 PM
Reply to: Message 88 by Buzsaw
05-21-2011 6:58 PM


Re: Fair And Balanced News
Buzsaw writes:
[news organizations] which such a person with enough wealth can essentially buy off, so to speak by huge contributions. Your contributions are to the extent that the organizations do your bidding rather than loose the contributions.
So, you're saying that Soros is making contributions???? to news organizations?
So is this to the publishers or the editors or the reporters or who?
And is this income reported to the IRS or is it under the table?
And does he give them their news story instructions once a day or is it more like on each different news event?
Does he write the stories for them or just tell them what to say?
Aren't you worried he's going to send hit men after you for blowing the whistle?

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jar
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Message 92 of 313 (616421)
05-21-2011 8:12 PM
Reply to: Message 89 by Coragyps
05-21-2011 7:09 PM


Re: Fair And Balanced News
Coragyps writes:
As for Soros's aspirations for America Glen Beck will explain it to you if you are interested enough to let him.
Glenn Frigging Beck is going to explain something to me? The Glenn Beck that is so fucking loony that even Fox News is letting him go? The Mormon Glenn Beck?
Is it true that George Soros is forcing Fox to cancel Glenn Beck?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Coragyps
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Message 93 of 313 (616427)
05-21-2011 9:29 PM
Reply to: Message 92 by jar
05-21-2011 8:12 PM


Re: Fair And Balanced News
Is it true that George Soros is forcing Fox to cancel Glenn Beck?
That must be it!! Soros caught Rupert Murdoch in bed with a dead girl! Or a live boy!

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hooah212002
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Message 94 of 313 (616456)
05-22-2011 12:26 PM
Reply to: Message 93 by Coragyps
05-21-2011 9:29 PM


Re: Fair And Balanced News
Soros caught Rupert Murdoch in bed with a dead girl!
Yep. Probably the girl that Glen Beck has yet to deny that he raped and murdered in 1990.

"What can be asserted without proof, can be dismissed without proof."-Hitch.

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Omnivorous
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Message 95 of 313 (616500)
05-22-2011 10:49 PM
Reply to: Message 93 by Coragyps
05-21-2011 9:29 PM


Re: Fair And Balanced News
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That must be it!! Soros caught Rupert Murdoch in bed with a dead girl! Or a live boy!
Only in Loose-iana.


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Message 96 of 313 (616577)
05-23-2011 12:33 PM
Reply to: Message 76 by Dr Adequate
05-20-2011 8:13 PM


Dr Adequate writes:
Its a lot like guns, riVerRrat...
The people who want to ban "Assault Rifles" don't know the first thing about guns or what makes one more dangerous to another.
You could put a pimped out .22 with a front grip, folding stock, and a banana mag next to an AA-12, and they'll think the 22 is worse because it looks like an "Assault Rife"!! ZOMG!
And most people who don't want terrorists to use biological weapons against the USA couldn't tell anthrax from baking soda. They would in fact be more alarmed by baking soda in a jar labeled ANTHRAX than by anthrax in a jar labeled BAKING SODA. But I don't see how this invalidates their position.
To continue with that analogy, I'm bitching about people who don't know anything about chemistry but want to ban jars of white powder.

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Rahvin
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Message 97 of 313 (616579)
05-23-2011 12:38 PM
Reply to: Message 96 by New Cat's Eye
05-23-2011 12:33 PM


Catholic Scientist writes:
Dr Adequate writes:
Its a lot like guns, riVerRrat...
The people who want to ban "Assault Rifles" don't know the first thing about guns or what makes one more dangerous to another.
You could put a pimped out .22 with a front grip, folding stock, and a banana mag next to an AA-12, and they'll think the 22 is worse because it looks like an "Assault Rife"!! ZOMG!
And most people who don't want terrorists to use biological weapons against the USA couldn't tell anthrax from baking soda. They would in fact be more alarmed by baking soda in a jar labeled ANTHRAX than by anthrax in a jar labeled BAKING SODA. But I don't see how this invalidates their position.
To continue with that analogy, I'm bitching about people who don't know anything about chemistry but want to ban jars of white powder.
Analogy fail. Not all white powders are dangerous. All firearms are designed with the intent to be lethal. Don't give me any bullshit about "it's designed to put holes in paper," we both know you can do that sort of target practice with a fucking air rifle that can't put a hole in a human skull. Firearms are designed for the exclusive purpose of killing; some are designed for killing animals other than humans, but every single one can be used to commit murder. That's a pretty fucking big difference for the white powder analogy.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 98 of 313 (616582)
05-23-2011 12:45 PM
Reply to: Message 97 by Rahvin
05-23-2011 12:38 PM


Analogy fail. Not all white powders are dangerous. All firearms are designed with the intent to be lethal.
I can't agree to that.
Don't give me any bullshit about "it's designed to put holes in paper," we both know you can do that sort of target practice with a fucking air rifle that can't put a hole in a human skull.
Irrelevant.
Firearms are designed for the exclusive purpose of killing; some are designed for killing animals other than humans, but every single one can be used to commit murder. That's a pretty fucking big difference for the white powder analogy.
Any white powder could be used to commit murder too.

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Rahvin
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Message 99 of 313 (616599)
05-23-2011 2:16 PM
Reply to: Message 98 by New Cat's Eye
05-23-2011 12:45 PM


Catholic Scientist writes:
Analogy fail. Not all white powders are dangerous. All firearms are designed with the intent to be lethal.
I can't agree to that.
Which firearm is not designed to be able to produce lethal force?
Don't give me any bullshit about "it's designed to put holes in paper," we both know you can do that sort of target practice with a fucking air rifle that can't put a hole in a human skull.
Irrelevant.
It's so relevant it's the entire point. Banning all white powder when only a subset of white powder can be used as a weapon is not comparable to banning all guns because, while only a subset of guns are used as weapons, all of them can be used as lethal weapons.
Gun owners like to retort that "my guns aren't used to kill, they're used to shoot paper targets," but that's a bullshit argument because everyone with more than 3 neurons understands that if you really just want to put holes in paper you don't need an actual human-lethal firearm, all you need is a pellet gun or the like. Guns are designed to be lethal. Handguns are designed specifically to be used on people (while owners of some rifles at least can argue that their firearms are intended to be lethal to other animals).
Firearms are designed for the exclusive purpose of killing; some are designed for killing animals other than humans, but every single one can be used to commit murder. That's a pretty fucking big difference for the white powder analogy.
Any white powder could be used to commit murder too.
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What, by forcing sufficient flour down someone's throat that they choke? Stop being an idiot, CS. You know the facts as well as I do. Any idiot with a loaded gun can point it at a person, squeeze a trigger, and commit murder. Every firearm is in fact designed to do just that - kill. The ones that are designed for hunting can be used to hunt human beings as easily as deer.
White powders are, by and large, not lethal, even by accident. If a kid gets into the flour, or the sugar, or the baking soda, the worst that happens is a nasty mess to clean up. If a kid gets into the gun safe and finds any loaded firearm of any type limited only by the child's ability to lift and carry the weapon, the worst that happens is somebody gets fucking shot, an occurrence that happens frequently enough that you cannot even pretend to be ignorant of it.

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Message 100 of 313 (616617)
05-23-2011 3:11 PM
Reply to: Message 99 by Rahvin
05-23-2011 2:16 PM


Catholic Scientist writes:
Analogy fail. Not all white powders are dangerous. All firearms are designed with the intent to be lethal.
I can't agree to that.
Which firearm is not designed to be able to produce lethal force?
That seems like a different question... Would you also say that all cars are designed with the intent to be lethal? They are designed to be able to produce lethal force.
Don't give me any bullshit about "it's designed to put holes in paper," we both know you can do that sort of target practice with a fucking air rifle that can't put a hole in a human skull.
Irrelevant.
It's so relevant it's the entire point. Banning all white powder when only a subset of white powder can be used as a weapon is not comparable to banning all guns because, while only a subset of guns are used as weapons, all of them can be used as lethal weapons.
All white powders can be used as lethal weapons, or all cars, or hammers, or all kinds of stuff. "Can be used as a lethal weapon" is not an argument for banning something.
Gun owners like to retort that "my guns aren't used to kill, they're used to shoot paper targets," but that's a bullshit argument because everyone with more than 3 neurons understands that if you really just want to put holes in paper you don't need an actual human-lethal firearm, all you need is a pellet gun or the like.
You really don't get it at all, do you? You cannot imagine why someone would prefer to shoot bullets over pellets, nor can you think of a legitimate reason for it.
It is kinda neat that you can read peoples' minds though. That you can know that people who design and use guns solely for target practice are just a bunch of liars.
Guns are designed to be lethal. Handguns are designed specifically to be used on people (while owners of some rifles at least can argue that their firearms are intended to be lethal to other animals).
You're one of the poeple who posts like they know almost nothing about guns!
What, by forcing sufficient flour down someone's throat that they choke?
That would work, wouldn't it?
Stop being an idiot, CS.
Nuh-uh - You're an idiot!
You know the facts as well as I do. Any idiot with a loaded gun can point it at a person, squeeze a trigger, and commit murder.
So its not that it *can* be used to do it, its that it makes it so easy?
Every firearm is in fact designed to do just that - kill.
False.
The ones that are designed for hunting can be used to hunt human beings as easily as deer.
Cars can be used to run down people. Oh, and they're specifically designed to break the speed limits, right? Shouldn't you also be arguing for banning some cars too?
If a kid gets into the gun safe and finds any loaded firearm of any type limited only by the child's ability to lift and carry the weapon, the worst that happens is somebody gets fucking shot, an occurrence that happens frequently enough that you cannot even pretend to be ignorant of it.
Okay, so the rational response is to argue against people leaving loaded guns in a child's reach, not banning them outright. Well, unless your an idiot who doesn't know anything about guns. But that's my point.

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Message 101 of 313 (616619)
05-23-2011 3:20 PM
Reply to: Message 100 by New Cat's Eye
05-23-2011 3:11 PM


not banning them outright.
It always amazes me that there is a certain group that as soon as there is any discussion about guns they trot out the gun ban canard.
Has anyone besides you said anything about banning guns? Seems quite dishonest to suddenly through this into the debate.
We need to have a corollary to Godwins law. Something about the first to bring banning guns into an unrelated topic. Maybe we should call it the CS law since you seem to be quite prone to doing it.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 102 of 313 (616622)
05-23-2011 3:46 PM
Reply to: Message 101 by Theodoric
05-23-2011 3:20 PM


It always amazes me that there is a certain group that as soon as there is any discussion about guns they trot out the gun ban canard.
You got any evidence for that assertion?
Has anyone besides you said anything about banning guns? Seems quite dishonest to suddenly through this into the debate.
What amazes me is the level of supidity that you must have to be unable to follow the discussion back through the context to see why it was brought up in the first place... especially when the software keeps track of which messages are replies to what.
Regardless, none of this has anything to do with Fox News.

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Message 103 of 313 (616623)
05-23-2011 3:49 PM
Reply to: Message 97 by Rahvin
05-23-2011 12:38 PM


we both know you can do that sort of target practice with a fucking air rifle
Here is a story about an air rifle that can kill you dead, I have a 22 cal beeman that will get it done also
I was contacted by a friend Paul Wald from "Salt Creek Life" and he was telling me about a article he had read about deer hunting with an air gun. Ya you heard me correctly an air gun. He thought that might make a good post and I have to say I agree with him. I have never heard of a air gun be powerful enough to kill a deer.
During my research I came across this story which I would like to share a part of it with you.
Missouri Deer Hunt
By: Jim Chapman
I’d been in the blind for about a half hour when a doe came marching down the hillside and stopped about 35 yards to browse. A second deer walked in behind and I saw a flash of antler, but he was behind the doe and I could get a good look. Then the doe drifted away and I brought the gun to shoulder and lined up the scope crap, only three points to a side! The doe had moved out to my left and was reaching up to nibble from a small tree at about 60 yards, and I sat with the gun poking through the recently vented mesh window and the crosshairs resting right where I imagined the heart. I was having a mental debate whether to take the shot or not, then reasoned I wanted something for the freezer. I squeezed off the shot and the doe flinched, walked 10 yards and dropped down dead.
People kill people, you can take my gun or ban them, I can make one if I want it bad enough, or go buy one on black market.
All banning guns would do is expand a black market for them, and guarantee only law and criminals would have them, it reminds me of pot being illegal, if it wasn't then there would be no need to have drug cartels controlling it and profiting from it, while making criminals out of a user.

"I hate to advocate the use of drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they always worked for me." - Hunter S. Thompson
Ad astra per aspera
Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.

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Theodoric
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Message 104 of 313 (616624)
05-23-2011 3:51 PM
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05-23-2011 3:46 PM


Regardless, none of this has anything to do with Fox News.
My point exactly. And you are the one that skewed the topic to gun bans.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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Message 105 of 313 (616625)
05-23-2011 3:55 PM
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05-23-2011 3:49 PM


Here is a story about an air rifle that can kill you dead, I have a 22 cal beeman that will get it done also
Louis and Clark brought a lethal air rifle with them on that expidition...
You can just google about it for links.

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