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Author Topic:   Creationist response to cetacean femur, leg atavism, and limb bud.
NoNukes
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Message 8 of 61 (617698)
05-30-2011 4:03 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by slevesque
05-30-2011 3:11 PM


slevesque writes:
Clearly, the femur's and buds of whales will only be seen as evidence of evolution only for a person who already believes in evolution.
That's not clear to me. Aaron has specific reasons why he thinks the buds are not evidence of evolution. It may well be that additional evidence and/or discussion confirms or refutes his reasoning.

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NoNukes
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Message 13 of 61 (617709)
05-30-2011 6:48 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by slevesque
05-30-2011 5:02 PM


slevesque writes:
I say it is clear because a creationist will see the specificity in the design of form and function, while the evolutionists will see that the bones have analog counterparts in terrestial mammals that will hint at common descent.
Perhaps that would be your line of reasoning. Aaron seems to argue that there are flaws in the evolution based reasoning that evolutionists should appreciate. Maybe he's right.
This is clearly not the case for the vast majority of claimed vestigial features
Evidence please.
You seem to say clearly quite often.

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NoNukes
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Message 60 of 61 (700326)
06-02-2013 1:34 AM
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06-02-2013 12:48 AM


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Mr. Byers isn't around. The post you are responding to is nearly two years old.

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