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Bolder-dash Member (Idle past 3657 days) Posts: 983 From: China Joined: |
How would you know, I hardly used any numbers at all?
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
So, you started a thread questioning if natural selection worked, and when evidence was provided that it did you tried to broaden the subject, instead of starting a new topic. (Random mutations are not and never have been a part of natural selection.).
Then you tried posting a thread on a very broad topic, against forum policy and the moderators actually followed forum policy instead of doing what you wanted ! And then you were allowed to start a thread asserting that all the evidence for evolution was found in bacteria and thus evolution should be characterised as explaining everything in terms of changing bacterial diets. And so you got subjected to evidence contrary to your assertion ! You are actually literally complaining that it is wrong to allow people to post factual evidence against your claims ! And then you object to a perfectly fair comment from Admin simply giving a personal opinion on the disagreement. I think we can conclude that your problem is not that moderation is biased. Your problem is that it is NOT grossly biased in your favour.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3739 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Balderdash writes:
Nope. Wrong again. Its a description of an observation, which dupes like you repeated often enough to make it become a noun. 'Dog' is not a "description of an observation". It is a label - or to give it the correct name: noun.'Carrot' is not a "description of an observation". It is a label - or to give it the correct name: noun. 'Natural Selection' is not a "description of an observation". It is a label - or to give it the correct name: noun. Balderdash writes:
So you didn't know that 'muffin' and 'top' were words until recently. That speaks volumes about your education. Do you know that OMG and 'muffin top" are words now too?But ultimately, your level of education does not affect reality. 'Natural Selection' is a noun - no matter how many toys you throw out of your pram.
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Bolder-dash Member (Idle past 3657 days) Posts: 983 From: China Joined: |
My dog weighs has curly hair. Carrots are orange.
How much does natural selection weigh?
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AdminModulous Administrator Posts: 897 Joined: |
The clearest way to show evidence of bias is if you act impeccably politely, report any issues in the moderator reporting thread as early as possible and don't react to anyone that might be trying to rattle your cage.
If you still find moderators actively biased against you, this would be a lot clearer to more people. The alternative tactic of causing a big fuss, calling people names, sarcasm, complaining in a series of different threads about the bias of the moderators and the perceived shortcomings of others is doomed to fail. If there is bias, that self-same bias will prevent it from being clear under such muddy circumstances. The days when the moderators used to suspend a lot more regularly for respect related infractions was kind of good, but we were accused of bias then, too. I know you are capable of polite discourse, so keep that side of it up.
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Bolder-dash Member (Idle past 3657 days) Posts: 983 From: China Joined: |
If there is some specific incident where you see that I am being very impolite in stark contrast to the other very well mannered posters here, could you please point that out to me. Otherwise I don't have the faintest idea what you are talking about.
But your comments are not unexpected all the same.
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Bolder-dash Member (Idle past 3657 days) Posts: 983 From: China Joined: |
So in a thread about the bias of the moderation you would like me to talk about?
The incredible insulating power of goose down? The weather?
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
purpledawn writes: quote:What thread are you talking out specifically? I looked at the what I've done as AdminPD back to 2007 and I don't see anything related to you in the Coffee House. I'm also having difficulty finding anything where we've discussed the Roman Catholic Church. Would you please provide a link to the offending thread? Thanks I'm referring to Message 77 Message 106 and Message 108 of the thread, How New Testament Fundi Christians Bless Atheists, Roman Catholics And Others (Forgot how to access the tid#. I see your moderating was as member but, nevertheless moderating me via your member account, prefaced by your messages in the PNT pertaining your reluctance to promote the thread relative to you opinion about evidence. I can't find the PNT thread but perhaps it was deleted when you later suggested via messaging me that I go ahead and do the OP?? BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
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Huntard Member (Idle past 2322 days) Posts: 2870 From: Limburg, The Netherlands Joined: |
I don't know. How much does a burn weigh?
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Buzsaw writes: purpledawn writes: quote:What thread are you talking out specifically? I looked at the what I've done as AdminPD back to 2007 and I don't see anything related to you in the Coffee House. I'm also having difficulty finding anything where we've discussed the Roman Catholic Church. Would you please provide a link to the offending thread? Thanks I'm referring to Message 77 Message 106 and Message 108 of the thread, How New Testament Fundi Christians Bless Atheists, Roman Catholics And Others (Forgot how to access the tid#. I see your moderating was as member but, nevertheless moderating me via your member account, prefaced by your messages in the PNT pertaining your reluctance to promote the thread relative to you opinion about evidence. I can't find the PNT thread but perhaps it was deleted when you later suggested via messaging me that I go ahead and do the OP?? There is no moderation in any of those three posts Buz, just another member here asking you for the thing you NEVER provide, and that is evidence Buz. Where is the evidence? Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: The PNT thread is easily found and contains no posts from AdminPD. Message 1
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tesla Member (Idle past 1620 days) Posts: 1199 Joined: |
I believe that many productive arguments have been held at these forums, or else, why then discuss anything here?
Many long time posters have a tendency to argue positions and views. To try to clarify a productive debate vs. a non-productive one let me propose two debates: In the first debate both individuals only agree there is an issue worth discussing and debating. Both individuals are open minded in their opinions. After much debate the two have scrutinized the data of their topic and arrive to two different conclusions, while both agreeing both are potentially false until they discover more evidence. or perhaps let’s say they both come to the conclusion the topic is purely subjective when interpreting. (Such as Plato would suggest when attempting to discover definitions of words like 'friendship’ in which he simply leads the reader to discover their own understanding of why or how they choose friends) In the second debate, which would be a better model for debates here: you have two or more individuals with a decided position who argue the evidence that supports their conclusion and the first one that walks away could be considered the least evidenced (even if this is not the case) I believe if many here could learn to debate more along the first method; that it would better convince those like-mindedthat is: in the pursuits of investigating their own knowledge and beliefs on topics: to stay and learn.
In a nutshell : Debate methodology could be the cause of waning activity, as well as: lack of scientific support for a creator that could give people who believe in God leverage for debate. Edited by tesla, : typing errors keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is ~parmenides
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purpledawn Member (Idle past 3484 days) Posts: 4453 From: Indiana Joined: |
quote:IOW, you're assuming moderation from my member mode because of constructive criticism I provided in a PM in Admin mode before you posted the topic yourself. There was no bias concerning the topic itself and since you wanted it in the Coffee House anyway, nothing stopped you from posting it. Oddly enough, I was trying to help. As far as in the thread, I wasn't moderating. I was trying to participate. There was no switching back and forth from my member mode to my Admin mode to moderate which is what you implied in Message 128.
Buzsaw writes: No evolutionist was required to produce evidence in the Coffee House forum by PD, who moderated me while debating her position demanding that I produce evidence on a debatable non-science Coffee House Topic. Looks like a case of reverse bias to me. Sorry that's electrical. Suffice it to say, you're not the only one whose been a victim of bias.
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purpledawn Member (Idle past 3484 days) Posts: 4453 From: Indiana Joined: |
quote:I gave constructive criticism over PM to avoid causing a bias in the thread because I was suggesting that he needed to provide some links and support. AdminPD writes: I'm not inclined to promote your topic, mainly because you've provided no links or solid information to support your claims. IIRC, you have breached this topic within threads before so you should have support for your claims. If you don't do it in the OP, there will be a slew of short posts asking you to provide support. You know that as well as I do. If you have no support, then there isn't any point in going forward with the topic. Buzsaw writes: AdminPD, my understanding is that the Coffee Shop topics need not be promoted by admins. I usually do so, in case another forum should be utilized. This is not the science forum. It's the Coffee House. History attests to my points. If you refuse to promote I'm going to the whine thread and aire my complaint. IMO, Coffee House topics should not be subjected to your indological approval. I hope you will reconsider. Thanks, Buz AdminPD writes: Then just post it in the Coffee House instead of the PNT. Buzsaw writes: Thanks very much, AdminPD. I forgot that we could do that. I've spent some time getting up some evidence. The only questionable assertion is the 100 million killed by communists last century. I see the figure is realistically somewhere between 60,000,000 and 100,000,000. I'll get to some of that down thread. Perhaps when I get it on you can weigh in to make some provacative points. AdminPD writes: Sorry, forgot this part also. The Title: How New Testament Fundi Christians Bless Atheists, Roman Catholics And Others The body of the OP doesn't show us the blessing bestowed by the Fundis. Instead it covers the negative issues you feel Atheists, etc. bring to the world. You may need to change the title or rework the OP. They aren't consistent. Still need support for whichever avenue you choose. I guess I didn't weigh in on the points he wanted. Last time I try to help.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 311 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Natural selection is an adjective, like quickness, or funny ... If you want to exhibit your ignorance of grammar, you could make this at least tangentially related to the topic by claiming that "bias" is a preposition or that "forum" is a conjunction. Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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