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Author Topic:   So Just How is ID's Supernatural-based Science Supposed to Work? (SUM. MESSAGES ONLY)
tesla
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Message 381 of 396 (618575)
06-04-2011 2:52 AM
Reply to: Message 379 by Scienctifictruths
06-03-2011 8:37 PM


Re: open minded debate
Is procreation bound by Physics? I really don't understand what you are getting at.
"The word physics is derived from Greek word fusis, meaning nature or natural things. As such, physics is defined as that branch of science, which studies natural phenomena in terms of basic laws and physical quantities. The study is generally structured to satisfy queries, arising from the observed events occurring around our world. In this sense, Physics answers questions about universe and the way elements of universe interact to compose natural phenomena.
The underlying principles in physics are simple and general, but defining (basic) in nature. Elements and quantities used to describe natural phenomena are also general and basic. The whole of universe, as a matter of fact, can be considered to be comprising of two basic quantities : (i) matter and (ii) energy. For this reason, some physicists rightly define physics as the study of matter and energy."
from: OpenStax CNX
do you get it now?

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

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tesla
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Message 383 of 396 (618608)
06-04-2011 9:09 AM
Reply to: Message 382 by Scienctifictruths
06-04-2011 3:37 AM


Re: open minded debate
This is a very wide definition, what particular means in the world of Physics would we then be using? Physics is a very broad word (via your definition)
Whatever physics is relative to the research.
You really have to be SPECIFIC.
I specifically said research into how the brain operates. More specifically how does it read and transfer data. And the big question to be answered: can the brain send and receive data from outside brain tissue.
Of course a lot of other things will be discovered and answered as scientists work towards that end asking specific questions relevant to initial work toward these ends.
At the moment Set E is still a null set, giving a false value. You can easily change this, be specific.
Set A 'Supernatural' = (Definition given) = 1
Set B 'Phenomena' = (Definition given) = 1
Set C 'Funding' = (Explained) = 1
Set D 'Greater Consciousness' = (Null) = 0
Set E 'Physics' = (Null) = 0 [I'm nearly tempted to give this a 1 now but you need to be more specific in your definition first]
Set F 'Research' = (Null) = 0
Set G 'Falsifiability' = (Null) = 0
Set H 'Evidence' = (Null) = 0
I really don't think I'm being irrational here or even harsh for that matter, I'm applying the same to your Model as any Scientist would to any Model.
Well you might want to go find a scientist and see what they think about that. But even if you did, Your asking end game questions, not initial questions.

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

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tesla
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Message 387 of 396 (618685)
06-05-2011 12:50 AM
Reply to: Message 384 by Scienctifictruths
06-04-2011 10:34 AM


Re: open minded debate
We could study the brain for out going information, but on what level would we look for this information?
Every level we can.
At the moment research is being done into the specifics of how the brain works in the fields of Neuroscience, Psychology and Biochemistry. Why not allow them to further research the nature of the brain itself before we jump too far ahead?
All i ever suggested is accelerated funding to research the brain itself. To the end it could explain:
You can say 'sink more money into it and more research' but really we don't even understand the nature of this data transference
Right. So let’s do research. Would scientists turn down funding to better understand the brain?
In any case, this is all irrelevant. Essentially a Hypothesis (which cannot be tested now) is no proof for ID.
I'm not saying we have proof of ID. I am saying it could lead to proof of ID
I want to understand what we are supposed to be Researching
The brain.

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

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