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Theodoric
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Message 3 of 89 (618811)
06-06-2011 11:18 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Panda
06-06-2011 9:54 AM


Unenforceable and this site already panders to the creo side. If they make an argument that can be refuted then any member should feel free to post. I do think it is important not to harp on the same thing someone else already has. But many of the ramblings of the newer members have many avenues by which they can be refuted.
I agree with your sentiment, but feel the limitations imposed would be to great. Also, this would empower an even lower class of poster than we are seeing now.
I think the vast majority of us have been dogpiled in the past. We made it through. If they don't have the stones for it then this is not the place for them. I think the dogpiling helps separate the wheat from the chaff. Aaron is still posting.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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Theodoric
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Message 9 of 89 (618823)
06-06-2011 1:42 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Panda
06-06-2011 12:47 PM


Why do you think it is unenforceable?
Maybe it is enforceable but it cannot be enforced fairly.
What if someone has a response that is POTM worthy, but two other people already replied? Do we leave it to the admins to decide which posts stay? Do they delete everything after the first two?
I am suggesting that we 'pander' to new members.
I think this is a bad idea. It will just encourage the type of poster that adds nothing to the discourse.
I also do not think that having 'stones' should be a requirement to post on this site.
If a person is unwilling or unable to adequately defend their posts then maybe they should reconsider posting initially. If there is dogpiling the person should have the wherewithal to look at their initial post and figure out why no one agrees with them.
I think that being able to learn is a far more important attribute. But dog-piling can put people's defences up and discourage them from learning.
That is their issue. I do not think the person we are talking about is going to be more likely to learn if they only have 2 responses. Rather I think limiting responses to 2 will reinforce their thinking. If a person gets defensive because they receive lots of criticism then they are probably not very open to learning in the first place.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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Theodoric
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Message 29 of 89 (619534)
06-10-2011 8:57 AM
Reply to: Message 25 by RAZD
06-10-2011 8:10 AM


Re: Question on an automatic mechanism
Would it be possible to limit the number of replies to a post? Say 5 posts in reply? Probably need to exception the first post of a thread, but that would put a no-moderator-needed control on massive dogpiling.
This seems to be a major response to a minor issue. This could potentially change the whole course of conversations. Maybe the 6th response is POTM quality an/or the best response.
Any attempt to limit responses, whether it is done actively or passively, is a form of censorship.

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