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Author Topic:   The limitations of Sexual Selection
crashfrog
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Message 4 of 36 (620227)
06-14-2011 10:58 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by slevesque
06-14-2011 2:23 PM


Because the very fact that a female prefers bright colors over dull colors is itself a trait of the female, and is therefore also subject to natural selection.
A female who prefers the most brightly colored mate in the vicinity isn't going to be subject to adverse selection as a result. And she's always going to pick some mate, therefore her genes are always going to be passed on, assuming she lives long enough.
So where this preference is widespread, males will equilibriate at the greatest, boldest coloration they can maintain in the face of predation. Shouldn't they?

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crashfrog
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Message 11 of 36 (620256)
06-15-2011 1:21 AM
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06-15-2011 1:14 AM


She isn't going to be subject to adverse selection, but her offspring will
I don't see how. Her daughters are going to be unharmed by inheriting the preference - or perhaps benefited by it, if the males they're led to mate with are the strongest and fastest. The males are going to benefit by inheriting traits that females prefer, in addition to the increased strength and speed their fathers must have had to survive predation without camouflage.
It's evolutionary benefits for all concerned, seems to me.
But if the trait is not fixed, and there is a range of preferences within the female population, how can it form anything else then at best an unstable equilibrium, one in which natural selection will in the long run always fix the most 'fitness-friendly' preferences in the females.
Female mate preference for bold coloration is fitness-friendly for females; the only pressure against it is the pressure of increased susceptibility to predation in males due to easy-to-spot coloration. And that pressure applies only to males.

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