Jose Guerena

On what basis? They're not in jail for their own benefit, they're in jail for ours. We're the ones that benefit, thus, we're the ones who pay the bill.Sounds perfectly reasonable to me. Much more reasonable than charging prisoners for their own incarceration, which is a barbaric and idiotic practice. (After all, what do you do when they can't pay? Jail them some more?)

In that case make prisons, prisons. Get rid of all the recreation items and other "country club" paraphernalia, and go back to hard labor and when not on the labor team, locked in their cells.

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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

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Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

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Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

Sounds like you've never been to one, if you think they're like country clubs.Do you frequently get raped at your country clubs, bluescat? Did you acquire a hepatitis infection at Club Med?I think if you ever had the courage to actually visit a prison, and when you realized that about 60-80% of the people there are in for completely harmless drug possession crimes, you might experience a change of heart about whether prisons should be hell on Earth for those we force into them.

People with harmless drug convictions shouldn't be in prison. What I mean by the country club is day rooms, athletic equipment etc. Prison should be for punishment to the dregs of society murderers, rapists, robbers, arsonists etc not foe non violent drug offenders, and things such as public intoxication or petty larceny.

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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

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Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

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Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

I don't know about everywhere, but in NC most misdemeanors go to an honor grade camp, some dont have fences, or any problems with rape. All the other things you mention, and then some are true. It is no fun to go out every day and bush axe trees for the DOT.NC has a whole business called Correctional Industries that make things like state trooper uniforms to furniture and janitorial supplies that it sells back to other govt agencies. NC also still has several large agricultural farms that grow food for the prison system. The dept of trans in most all counties use a large prisoner work force to do jobs that they otherwise would have to hire people for, and provide benefits for.I have often wondered how it would effect the state if all this cheap labor was to be gone?Many people who go to prison now simply cant afford to pay all the money it takes to be on probation, com unity service, drug or anger management...ect None of these things are free and it means the prison system is more likely to have poor people go because they cant afford to stay free. This has never seemed fair to me, in my county there is a real shortage of court appointed lawyers. With so few there are many cases that take a long time to get to court, often a poor man will sit in jail longer than his sentence would've been if he could've got a speedy trial, sit in jail 45 days on a charge that only carries 15 or 20. what a waste of time and money for all involved.

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"I hate to advocate the use of drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they always worked for me." - Hunter S. ThompsonAd astra per asperaNihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.

When I see you lifting even a single finger towards that end, I'll be more inclined to take your thoughts on the prison environment more seriously. In the meantime you may wish to consider some research on how less benighted nations such as Sweden approach their penal system.

Like what, other than signing petitions, what else can one do to get a corrupt system corrected? Until the system stops treating all criminals, whether petty or severe, the same nothing good can come out of it. When a person who has several CP photos on his PC gets 20 years, whereas a murderer sentenced to life without parole, gets out in 3, do to overcrowding, and then kills some one else there is something wrong. If peopl, like the the CP person had a legit sentence ie: a fine, community service and counseling, there wouldn't be overcrowding and a murderer given life without parole would get that, instead of being released to kill again 2000 mile away.Edited by bluescat48, : added sentence.

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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

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Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

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Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

Just so we're clear on this: you think the appropriate sentence for the sexual exploitation of children is "a fine, community service and counseling"?

How is a picture of a nude boy or girl, exploitation. What certain states classify as CP isn't. Even if it were actual or simulated sexual acts, why should it require prison time. For individuals who take CP pictures, that is another story, sexual child molestation which should result in Prison time.

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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

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Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

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Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

It's still murder even if I hire it out; by the same token, "enjoying" the services of someone else producing child pornography seems, to me, to be taking part in the exploitation of a child.Let's say there were some naked pictures of you, taken without your consent or knowledge, that you then found out about. It's certainly the case that the degree to which you would feel you had been taken advantage of would be related to the number of people who had viewed the pictures.

Yes and I would go after the a-hole who posted them not against any one happened to download them.The downloaders are just sick, the poster is a criminal.Edited by bluescat48, : added line

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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

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Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

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Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008