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Mazzy  Suspended Member (Idle past 4611 days) Posts: 212 From: Rural NSW, Australia Joined: |
It is not my uneducated word that I rely on. You are also refuting very well creationists such as Sanford and Sarfarti that do not find your theoretical evidence convincing.
Here is another article that entertains the crocodile analogy. It is dimisssed "In contrast to pakicetids, Ambulocetus had a narrow snout and laterally directed orbits, relatively short legs, and an overall robust skeleton. An intriguing possibility regarding the palaeobiology of Ambulocetus is that it was a crocodile-like ambush predator that stalked prey while concealed in shallow water (Thewissen et al. 1996). This conclusion is based on the crocodile-like skull of Ambulocetus: both groups have long but robust snouts, pointed teeth, strong jaw-closing muscles and eyes located high up on the head."Darren Naish: Tetrapod Zoology: When whales walked the land and looked like antelopes and mimicked crocodiles. and evolved trunks. What? So here you have some similarities between Natans and crocs. You choose to see what you want to see, regardless of the fact that Natans looks like a croc. The blatantly obvious, is ignored often by evolutionists. and No a horse and a cow are not the same according to my definition, if you know your taxonomy at all. BovinaeCephalophinae Hippotraginae Antilopinae Caprinae Reduncinae Aepycerotinae Peleinae Alcelaphinae Pantholopinae These above are representative of kinds. A cow is Bovinae and a horse is from the family Equidae. So far it appears...I WIN.......... Edited by Mazzy, : No reason given.
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2285 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 7.2
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These above are representative of kinds. A cow is Bovinae and a horse is from the family Equidae. So if kind=family then you agree that Pan troglodytes and Homo sapiens both of the family Hominidae are the same kind. It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8527 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.2
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So far it appears...I WIN.......... If you call ignoring the refutations of your sources, the exposure of your lies and the presentation of real facts opposed to your errant perceptions as a win then I guess for you self-deception is exhilarating. And with your performance in this thread you should be wildly ecstatic. Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.
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Portillo Member (Idle past 4181 days) Posts: 258 Joined: |
quote: If the missing link between humans and apes has been found, there would be no need to proclaim it every year. As Lloyd Pye says "these are regularly trundled out because mainstream science never actually HAS the missing links they claim to have, so they seem to think that by regular repetition of the claim people will fall asleep at the wheel and assume they actually have something of consequence." http://articles.nydailynews.com/...n-missing-link-jorn-hurum http://news.nationalgeographic.com/..._060413_evolution.html http://news.nationalgeographic.com/...0327_060327_skull.html Oldest Skeleton of Human Ancestor Found
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bluescat48 Member (Idle past 4210 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: |
A cow is Bovinae and so is a bison, water buffalo, yak, eland, 4 horned antelope & a kudu. I take it then these are all the same kind? There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8527 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.2
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If the missing link between humans and apes has been found, there would be no need to proclaim it every year. First of all, Portillo, scientists do not call these finds "missing links." The sensationalist news media does. As for these finds. There are millions of missing pieces to the fossil record. Every time we find one it is a triumph for science. I think your creationist mind set is hopelessly out of touch with reality.
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Portillo Member (Idle past 4181 days) Posts: 258 Joined: |
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2285 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 7.2 |
If the missing link between humans and apes has been found,
The so called missing link is not between H. sapiens and apes but between H. sapiens and the various ancestral species. It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8527 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.2 |
Responding to media questions about this or that being a "missing link." Scientists have never been savvy media mavens.
Still the point is this concept you have of a "missing link" is a media fiction. One, no doubt, you are very comfortable pushing regardless of the facts. Edited by AZPaul3, : Proper syntax! Yes, mom.
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Portillo Member (Idle past 4181 days) Posts: 258 Joined: |
How many missing links between apelike humans and humans can there be? Do any missing link apes show any signs of having speech, language, logic, self awareness, conscience?
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2285 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 7.2 |
How many missing links between apelike humans and humans can there be?
Who knows?
Do any missing link apes show any signs of having speech, language, logic, self awareness, conscience?
Neanderthal burials have been found, stone tool technolgy was used by them and by H. erectus and H. habilis. It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2513 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
No a horse and a cow are not the same according to my definition, if you know your taxonomy at all. Your definition is: "If two things look superficially like one another, then they are the same group." Horses and cows look like each other. Four legs, eat grass, stand in fields, flat backs, hairy, tails, head in the front. Ergo, these are the same animal. Certainly, more so than ambulocetus and crocs, which have LESS in common with another another than horses and cows. By the way, you are forbidden from citing taxonomy in a post in which you argue taxonomy should be ignored in favor of "duh, they look alike to me."
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2513 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined:
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I have provided evidence that even catastrophy does not kill off most species. Statistically if the human line survived, variations survived untill recently, and the chimp line survived Statistically? Really? Show your math. 99.999999% of all species which have ever lived have gone extinct. What POSSIBLE statistics could you present that would DEMAND that a challenger to humans for resources MUST be a member of the .00000001% exception?
However, my assertion, that the reason there are no half humans around is based on fact that there aren't any around today, fact And my assertion that there never was a Roman Empire is because there's no Caesars live today. My assertion that you don't have any ancestors is that no one older than your grandparents is alive today. My assertion that the sandwich I allegedly had for lunch never existed is because it's no longer around today.
Given mankind was created last Given that the Bible is a work of fiction, you can't really use it as a source for your argument, can you? After all, the Bible is actually no different than the dictionary. They both are book, have pages, writing on the pages. "Duh, looks alike to me, must be the same thing".
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2513 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined:
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If the missing link between humans and apes has been found, there would be no need to proclaim it every year. Which fucking word didn't you understand the last time I explained this? Is there anyone in your family who can actually read? Maybe they can help you puzzle this out: Newspaper headlines are NOT sources of scientific information. The fact that a newspaper write "missing link found" has NOTHING TO DO with the actual discovery, it's value, it's place in the fossil record. It ONLY has to do with that newspaper's desire to SELL NEWSPAPERS. If this post looks familiar, it's because I ALREADY FUCKING EXPLAINED THIS TO YOU.
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2513 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
Do any missing link apes show any signs of having speech, language, logic, self awareness, conscience? Yes.
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