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Author Topic:   The Flood, fossils, & the geologic evidence
Pressie
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Message 297 of 377 (621591)
06-27-2011 6:18 AM
Reply to: Message 272 by Chuck77
06-25-2011 2:36 AM


Re: Brief notes on the "flood"
Chuck, your references are just so unbelievably idiotic. Your first reference Flood transported quartzites: Part 1east of the Rocky Mountains - creation.com :
Oard, et al writes:
Flood transported quartziteseast of the Rocky Mountains by Michael Oard, John Hergenrather and Peter Klevberg
Well-rounded gravel, cobbles and boulders of quartzite have been transported over 1,000 km to the east of their Rocky Mountain source areas. They are found at the tops of mountains, ridges and plateaus, as well as at the bottom of valleys, and are found in deposits ranging in thickness from a thin veneer, or lag, to 5,000 m. Percussion and pressure solution marks are commonly found on the clasts. All of these evidences point to catastrophic, powerful erosion and transport on a subcontinental scale, suggesting that these deposits formed during the Flood.
Well-rounded gravel, cobbles and boulders of quartzite with percussion and pressure solution marks are very often found in glacial deposits as well as river systems, etc. No catastrophe necessary. No flood necessary. It even forms today right in front of our own eyes. Coupled with the fact that those conglomerates are part of the mountains, not on the mountains, it certainly points away from a flood.
This was so ridiculous that I went to have a look at the authors.
Oard is a Meteorologist. While he was studying weather patterns, geologists actually studied rocks. Oard wouldn’t have a clue about geology.
Hergenrather is a Geographer. While he was studying towns, geologists were actually studying rocks. Hergenrather wouldn’t have a clue about geology.
Klevberg is a Civil Engineer. While he was studying how to build supermarkets, geologists were actually studying rocks. Klevberg wouldn’t have a clue about geology.
I mean, how wrong can you actually be about a subject and then some people still think you know it all? The only way for them is to be taken seriously bycreationists who don't know what science is.
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Pressie
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Message 311 of 377 (622016)
06-30-2011 4:21 AM
Reply to: Message 308 by Chuck77
06-30-2011 2:58 AM


Re: Brief notes on the "flood"
Chuck77 writes:
I say this with as much respect as I can, the only reason this debate has lasted so long is because of the long line of ignorant Creationists that come here that havn't or don't want to realise that Creationism in it's current form doesn't fit into the Scientific method. So when people like myself are new to the whole thing we don't realise this right off the bat. It's like boot camp and you guys are the drill sergants, another crop of creationists every couple months, but that's what keeps the debate alive.
IT’S A WEARYING BUSINESS, ARGUING WITH CREATIONISTS. BASICALLY, IT IS A GAME OF WHACK-A-MOLE. THEY MAKE AN ARGUMENT, YOU WHACK IT DOWN. THEY MAKE A SECOND, YOU WHACK IT DOWN. THEY MAKE A THIRD, YOU WHACK IT DOWN. SO THEY MAKE THE FIRST ARGUMENT AGAIN. -- John Derbyshire
Sorry, I forgot to add that this is the main reason for referring "new" creationists to old threads. It's not worth going through all those PRATTS, again.
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Pressie
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Message 312 of 377 (622017)
06-30-2011 4:55 AM
Reply to: Message 310 by Chuck77
06-30-2011 4:14 AM


Re: Response to Zen and Taq
Chuck77 writes:
Maybe Creationism should be seperate from Science all together.
That's the whole point. You see, Chuck77, creationism is completely separate from science, altogether.
Even if some people try to call it 'creation science'. They mislead people, because even that name is an oxymoron. Creationists pretend to do science by using sciency sounding words. That's it. Why do you think not even one scientific organization in the world has ever recognized 'creation science' as science?
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