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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Chuck writes: So, I guess if I were to rephrase my question it would simply be, where is the flood layer? There are lots of flood layers, lots and lots of flood layers. There is no Biblical Flood level because the Biblical Flood never happened and anyone claiming that there was a Biblical Flood at this point in history is simply wrong at best, lying quite often. The Biblical Flood has been totally refuted unless the God that caused it is also a lying, cheating scum bag that then erased all of the evidence. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
What is even funnier, we actually have samples of the atmosphere from long before the imagined Biblical Flood that show there is almost no differences, samples from amber, from ice cores, from inside rock, from chemical reactions.
Buz has been told all this many times but simply continues to post total falsehoods. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
No Buz, once again what you post is simply another falsehood.
It is NOT assuming anything. The Biblical Flood has been totally refuted as you have been shown repeatedly. The air bubbles caught in ice have been sampled and found to be not much different than today. Specimens like Oetzi who would have been contemporary with Adam show that nothing was much different. Your claims are simply repeated falsehoods. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Yup. I have yet to find a YEC that can explain how the lowest exposed material at the Grand Canyon got formed.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I believe the flood happened but not knowing what the earth looked like before the "flood" how would I know how the evidence against it is supposed to look? But we know what the earth looked like before the date most folk use for the imagined flood, we know quite well and from many, many different lines of evidence. There is also the genetic bottleneck signature that totally and completely refutes the Biblical flood myths.
jar writes: quote: Finally, there are no and can be no Creation Scientists. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
We also have examples of catastrophic events that would raise mountains, and guess what, such events leave evidence.
Raise up a mass the size of even a small mountain ovr a year, ten years, one hundred year, even a thousand year period and I promise you it will leave evidence behind. The idea that the Biblical Flood ever happened is quite simply idiotic. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Sorry jar, this isn't the religious section. If I can't use the Bible as evidence for The flood (or anything for that matter) then you can't use it as evidence against it. If you want to go over to the religious section and discuss verse by verse exactly how the flood happened, what took place, how many "clean" and "unclean" animals were aboard etc etc. then ok. That comment makes it pretty obvious that either you did not read what I posted or were unable to understand what I posted. If it is the former, go back and actually read the quoted material again. If it is the latter then simply tell me and I'll try to explain it to you again. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
One thing he should remember is that it was folk that believed in the Biblical Flood that finally totally refuted it.
The idea that there was a Biblical Flood simply became totally untenable over 200 years ago. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Chuck writes: BTW, im not saying that ID is anymore "Scientific" than Creationsim but I do happen to think it is a little more "progressed" so to speak than Creationism. I know some/a lot think they are the same but that's a discussion for another thread. Actually ID is nothing but Creationism that was repackaged in an attempt to fool the courts. You're headed in the right direction IMHO, and speaking as one Christian to another, keep questioning, keep challenging. If it helps you during this maturing process, understand that Science is simply "How God did it." Creationism though, and Intelligent Design, are absolutely nothing but a Carny Con Job. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
It is worse than that. The bottle neck would show up in every species living today.
The idea that there really was a flood like either of the Biblical myths is just plain silly. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Welcome back sir, I have missed your presence.
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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If the populations were actually reduced to the size listed in the stories, it's doubtful that any of those would survive and they would simply become subsumed into similar species that moved in after the event.
We know though that if it was a local even we can with very high confidence make a few conclusions. That critters living today are unlikely to be descended from any of the critters in the stories.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I'm sure there are literally thousands if not millions of such examples.
The issue is even if such evidence could be found that would not support the accounts in the stories. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Well, the area is one that has seen many floods, particularly if you look at the Tigris Euphrates area and since there is no sure date for the stories it is almost certain that you can find many flood events that could be the origin of the myths.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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