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Enochian
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07-07-2011 5:24 PM


If ID is taught in public schools, Dependent Origination must also be taught as it explains how things arise WITHOUT an intelligent agent.

Everything exists as a thoughtform imposed upon causes and conditions. This applies to yourself, the causes and conditions themselves, and even the principle of causality itself.

Since each cause is actually an effect of a previous cause, there is no first cause or beginning. Causality is an impersonal law of the universe, just as gravitation is.

In fact an intelligent agent is specifically ruled out because it is is not possible for some indepedent, uncaused "thing" to interact with our dependently originated universe. It would be like trying to run Microsoft Windows on a paper book. Utterly incompatible.

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Hi Enochian, welcome to EvC!

I don't think we've ever promoted a one sentence topic proposal. Could you flesh this out by explaining what "Dependent Origination and Mādhyamaka" is, and then outlining your arguments for why including ID in public schools would require including it also.


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07-10-2011 11:57 PM


how about now?

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07-11-2011 7:52 AM


Wikipedia Reference
To assist participants, here's a link to the Wikipedia article on dependent origination, a Buddhist philosophy also known as Pratītyasamutpāda.


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