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Author Topic:   jesus out of wedlock?
Rrhain
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Message 6 of 15 (60697)
10-13-2003 7:03 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by sidelined
10-13-2003 2:11 AM


sidelined writes:
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Are there any myths previous to jesus that has a pregnancy between a god and a human female?
Have you not read a single Greek myth?
Let's see...Dionysus was born of Zeus and Semele, Helen (originally of Sparta but famous as "Helen of Troy") and the twins Castor and Pollux were born was Zeus and Leda, Persus from Zeus and Danae, and of course, Heracles from Zeus and Alcmene. And that's just Zeus' kids. Apollo had his own kids born of mortals, too. Phaeton was born of Apollo and Clymene (and appears to be an adapted Ethiopian myth).
Speaking of Dionysus, he has a resurrection myth attached to him, too, as does Osiris. The concept of a child of god, born of woman, tortured on earth, killed, and resurrected is much older than Jesus.
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Rrhain
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From: San Diego, CA, USA
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Message 15 of 15 (62336)
10-23-2003 9:34 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by Zealot
10-22-2003 5:56 PM


Zealot writes:
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I assume you and Rrhain are pretty clued up on this, so I'm asking who put the greek myths down in writing and at what date in history was this documented.
There are lots of them. Greek mythology suffers from a "which version did you have in mind?" problem. The population of Greece was of city-states and while they often shared mythologies, they put their own spins on things.
One good reference is Hesiod's Theogony. Hesiod was writing in the 8th century BCE and his Theogony is a fair repository of the history of the gods, starting with Chaos, going through the generations, and even getting into a list of goddesses who bore children of mortal men and mortal women who bore children of gods.
For a good list of ancient authors and how much we owe of our knowledge of Greek mythology to each other, see here:
Ancient Authors & Works
The big one is Apollodorus who covers everything from the beginning of time to the Trojan War. However, he was writing in 100 CE.
Aeschylus, Aristophanes, Euripides, Herodotus, Pindar, Plato, and Sophocles (and I chose them because you've probably heard of them) were all writing about the 5th century BCE.
Homer was about 750 BCE.
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