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Theodoric Member (Idle past 101 days) Posts: 7051 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: |
What is the title of this book? Could you give us the name of the brilliant scholar that wrote this book so we can look at the sources used. I have a feeling that the only evidence used is the version of the bible that this particular person places his/her faith in.
Do you have evidence for any of this? Edited by Theodoric, : Spelling Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Percy Member Posts: 19949 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
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cigarshaped Junior Member (Idle past 3426 days) Posts: 5 From: Bracknell, UK Joined: |
If a cosmic catastrophe struck the world, major disruption and death would follow. Certainly if the "earth turned over like a potter's wheel - upside down" (Papyrus Ipuwer ) or "South to North, the Earth turns over" Papyrus Harris, we would expect some visible signs in the atmosphere. Virtually total blackout.
Hence Ps 82:5 "They walk about in darkness", Jer 2:6 "..through the barren wilderness.. a land of drought and darkness,.", Ps 44:19 ".. deep darkness", Is 9:2 "The people walking in darkness..", Ps107:14 He brought them out of darkness and the deepest gloom..", Job 24:17 "For all of them deep darkness is their morning;..". Ermitage papyrus "None can live when the sun is veiled by clouds." Moses seems to have avoided mentioning the darkness but everyone seems to have suffered it! Aztecs - 'no sun for many years, then reappeared in the East'. The Mayans have similar legends. So a global Exodus period scenario is my suggestion.
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cigarshaped Junior Member (Idle past 3426 days) Posts: 5 From: Bracknell, UK Joined: |
Percy it is 'Worlds in Collision' actually. A brilliant collection of quotations and a rather extreme theory that annoyed academia. BBC Horizon in 1972 did a good resume.
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jar Member Posts: 33174 From: Texas!! Joined: Member Rating: 4.4 |
Except there is absolutely no evidence anything like that ever happened.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Theodoric Member (Idle past 101 days) Posts: 7051 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: |
Since he had no evidence for any of this, do you? Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Iblis Member (Idle past 2678 days) Posts: 663 Joined: |
You do know that Velikovsky's "work" is inflammatory pseudo-science though, right?
http://en.wikipedia.org/..._Collision#Contemporary_reactions See, what happened was, Sigmund Freud had pissed off the orthodox religious community by (among many things) suggesting that the character of Moses was based on the Egyptian father of monotheism, Akhenaton. Velikovsky began playing literary games with history to refute the Head Shrink, in a blatantly satirical manner, by "proving" that Moses happened nowhere near the scholarly accepted date and that furthermore, Akhenaten was actually the basis for the character of Oedipus. Get it? Brilliant, sure. Truthful? Serious? Hardly. Science? Not even close.
http://en.wikipedia.org/...vsky.27s_career_as_a_psychiatrist
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cigarshaped Junior Member (Idle past 3426 days) Posts: 5 From: Bracknell, UK Joined: |
Actually Velikovsky may have bitten off too big a chunk in one go. His work deserves more honest assessment. Now there is a growing movement of dissident scientists and researchers continuing his themes. The evidence grows for a major re-think of how the universe actually works.
The old Newtonian/ Einsteinian gravity-only paradigms are being superceded. The Old cosmology crowd are rigidly sticking to their black holes and Big Bangs while it is becoming clear that electricity plays an enormous role in the entire universe. There is no religious agenda only a re-assessment of the past 100 years of dogma. I would prefer to see some less orthodox, biased quotations than wikipedia in future. You couldn't find a more conservative, old school, anti-progress crowd if you tried.
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Theodoric Member (Idle past 101 days) Posts: 7051 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: |
Care to provide names and sources or is this just something you like to say?
Anything, anything at all to back this up?
Try this. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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cigarshaped Junior Member (Idle past 3426 days) Posts: 5 From: Bracknell, UK Joined: |
The Exodus episode requires a fundamental reassessment of our understanding of the cosmos. This is what Velikovsky attempted, using humanity's records. If you are unwilling to accept the words of our predecessors then perhaps lab- shown principles will pave the way for a re-think. I'll give you a website with daily challenge to conventional wisdom, for example. The Thunderbolts team has just finished a 4 day Conference at Maryland University, in conjunction with another scientific group, the National Philosophy Alliance. Among the team are Professor Donald E. Scott PhD (Electrical Engineering) Electric Cosmos originator and Wallace Thornhill Electric Universe originator. Both of these guys have done numerous experiments to demonstrate the behaviour of plasma and how it directly relates to cosmic phenomena. Electric Discharge Maching can be shown to originate virtually every crater seen in the solar system as I demonstrated here.
Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Hide and off-topic banner.
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jar Member Posts: 33174 From: Texas!! Joined: Member Rating: 4.4 |
Which still has jack shit to do with the topic or whether or not the Biblical Exodus ever happened.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Adminnemooseus Director Posts: 3933 Joined: |
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