Who designed the ID designer(s)?

Yes. 100% it depends on your background. Had you been raised in India, you would not be making these claims despite living on the same planet and having access to the same evidence. Here's the problem we have with people like you.These two sentences are completely contradictory.If you "choose to believe" you are doing so in the _absence of proof_.
If you are claiming you have proof, then you are no longer working off belief.I do not "believe" that I have a dog. I KNOW that I have a dog. I have proof that I have a dog.Creationists make statements like: "Well, this is what I believe, and I shouldn't have to defend it".
But the ALSO want to make statements like: "Here's the proof"As SOON AS you start to offer "proof", you forfeit your right to claim "this is what I believe".As SOON AS you start to offer "proof", you are subject to having that proof evaluated. You are forced to explain WHY this "proof" is "proof" at all.So, take a moment. Stop and think it through.Then, if you want to talk about what you believe, go share it with someone from your church. No one else cares. If your beliefs are unchanging and based solely on what your mother told you as a child, there's no reason to share them with us.However, if you want to talk PROOF and FACTS, then be prepared to back up any claims you make.

And you seem like a moron, but I was willing to keep it civil until you spouted off.The fact of the matter is this, the "V" in EVC is "versus".If you don't want to have your beliefs confronted, DON'T POST THEM.It's really simple. It's PAINFULLY simple.If you shut up and go away, you'll never hear from anyone who disagrees with you. If you want to stick around, then you are going to have to put up with people who are unwilling to let you say stupid things without calling you on it.It's your choice.

Percy, I responded _in kind_.I notice that in your response to Chuck, not only didn't you complain about him calling me a dick, you and I are presenting the same basic argument. If his response to you was this: Would you say that he was being respectful? Doubt it.I have no problem with you jumping in to keep stuff on course or civil, just don't turn a blind eye to the Creationists just because they claim that Jesus made them do it.

It's absolutely faith.In the end, what is religion other than "my brain hurts, I give up"?Seriously. Think about it.Go to anyone and ask them "why?". Keep repeating the question ceaselessly. No matter what answer they give you, pick either a noun or verb from than answer and ask "why" about it.Eventually the person you are asking wants you to stop. So they say, "It just is!" or "Because God said so!".That's it. That's the ENTIRE purpose of religion, to get people to stop asking questions that other people can't answer.So, someone claims there's a designer. You ask who designed the designer? If they say "A designer before him", you just keep repeating the question endlessly.Eventually, they are going to say there was a magical wizard who was the first designer and that they don't need to explain where he came from because it's magic.

Fruit of the poisonous tree.You are creating a "hypothetical IDist", but that person is merely exposing a position they've been tricked into by Creationists intent of installing a theocracy.He may not feel as though what he is saying is a religious belief, but that doesn't change what it is.Strike "religion" and replace it with "racism" and let's have another look.What if a hypothetical Jew hater complained about their wickedness, their horns, their tails? What if he were quoting off pro-Hitler webpages? Would he be racist? Even if he said, "No, I really believe these things are true. I don't dislike Jews, they are just an inferior race and must be exterminated. Honestly."His position is racist. He comes to it from information give to him by racists. His arguments are coached for him by racists. It's racism top to bottom.The same is true here.A Creationists is a creationist is a creationist. Deep down, they are all saying that the Bible is literally verbatim true and that the Earth is 6000 years old.Some of them pretend to say otherwise because they've found that their real argument is unconvincing.But none of them ACTUALLY believe anything but YEC. The rest is all just dishonesty.