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Taq Member Posts: 10388 Joined: Member Rating: 5.7 |
Random mutations are not excluded, but most of them are in away directet by information. How are they directed, and by what information?
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Wounded King Member (Idle past 360 days) Posts: 4149 From: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Joined: |
We should not forget there wasn't any research specifically on neural system intervention, propably because of the difficulties the matter is presenting. What difficulties particularly? The ones that come to my mind are the 'absolutely no evidence for a role' one and the 'no plausible mechanism' one.
there is a type of information transfer from environment to genome. ... This what i was sayng all the time. If you believe this then I suggest you go and re-read your opening post. You said a whole lot more, most of it totally made up off the top of your head, with not a scintilla of evidence to support any of it.
Direct- random: Environmental Information , by altogether biochemical pathways always, direct evolution. Natural selection is always present. Random mutations are not excluded, but most of them are in away directet by information. If this is supposed to be a clear explanation with defined terms then I'm afraid it is a failure of epic proportions. At least it has the advantage of brevity. TTFN, WK
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
[sigh]This is just going around and around, now. Zi has been told about evidence and is not talking it on board and I don't think she ever will.[/sigh]
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zi ko Member (Idle past 3947 days) Posts: 578 Joined: |
In view of your 'evidence' against i would like to make a question:
In case that one or more researchers proved that nerous system does intervenes in evolution process and empathy has effect on genome, how would you call my"speculations" then? Information: It is time its undeservedly neglectet powerful role to evolution to be restored.
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zi ko Member (Idle past 3947 days) Posts: 578 Joined: |
The same answer as my message 229.
Information: It is time its undeservedly neglectet powerful role to evolution to be restored.
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zi ko Member (Idle past 3947 days) Posts: 578 Joined: |
What difficulties particularly? The ones that come to my mind are the 'absolutely no evidence for a role' one and the 'no plausible mechanism' one.
I mean the inherit difficulties in searching of neural system.
If you believe this then I suggest you go and re-read your opening post. You said a whole lot more, most of it totally made up off the top of your head, with not a scintilla of evidence to support any of it. What do you mean? I can't see what i had changed.
Direct- random: Environmental Information , by altogether biochemical pathways always, direct evolution. Natural selection is always present. Random mutations are not excluded, but most of them are in away directet by information. If this is supposed to be a clear explanation with defined terms then I'm afraid it is a failure of epic proportions. At least it has the advantage of brevity. Is there anything you dont understand? Edited by zi ko, : No reason given.
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In view of your 'evidence' against i would like to make a question: In case that one or more researchers proved that nerous system does intervenes in evolution process and empathy has effect on genome, how would you call my"speculations" then? A lucky guess with a ridiculous coincidence.
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zi ko Member (Idle past 3947 days) Posts: 578 Joined: |
As for the papers you have cited , i understand that environmental interaction thrugh diet does not require nervous system intervention. But speculating about i inferred that some types of life style require this intervention ,as i suppose you had said as well. How do differences in lifestyle specifically guide the process of mutagenesis in germ cells so that specific beneficial mutations are produced? You keep forgetting what your speculation actually is. Cooney et all ,if i understand well, state that nutritients, humididity, day circles, life style, ect, can have an inpact on phenotypic genome. So there does exist a mechanism of serving this function , although the authors didn't give any information about. Do you think i have to answer for them. I f i am wrong in explaining them , you should show me up. I didn't use the words mutagenesis or beneficial or random mutations at this point of discussion. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Information: It is time its undeservedly neglectet powerful role to evolution to be restored.
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zi ko Member (Idle past 3947 days) Posts: 578 Joined: |
In view of your 'evidence' against i would like to make a question: In case that one or more researchers proved that nerous system does intervenes in evolution process and empathy has effect on genome, how would you call my"speculations" then? A lucky guess with a ridiculous coincidence. Surely a very "bad" luck for some "believers" of dogmatic and suspicious science. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
Surely a very "bad" luck for some "believers" of dogmatic and suspicious science. ![]() You really do think that your speculations have some value and that the opposition to them is because of their nature ![]() That's hilarious!
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Panda Member (Idle past 4040 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
zi ko writes:
And when it is shown that the moon IS made of cheese, then we will laugh in the faces of all those stupid scientists that claimed otherwise.
Surely a very "bad" luck for some "believers" of dogmatic and suspicious science.
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Wounded King Member (Idle past 360 days) Posts: 4149 From: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Joined: |
I mean the inherit difficulties in searching of neural system. Like what? There is a vast amount of research into the workings of the neural system and an equally vast amount into genetics and epigenetics including epigenetics within the nervous system. None of these researches suggest that a mechanism such as the one your theory would require, but which you can't describe, exists. I agree that there is an inherent difficulty in finding things that don't exist, but that is hardly in favour of your position.
Is there anything you dont understand? I quite clearly said what would be useful in moving this discussion forward ...
WK writes: Well what meaning do you give to the word 'direct' or indeed to the term 'non-random'? If you simply mean that not all mutations are equiprobable then it is trivially obvious but has nothing to do with what you have been talking about. A definition of what you mean by information would also be very useful, and possibly what you mean by epigenetics. You addressed absolutely none of these things in your word salad response. You used many of the words but not in a coherent way that would allow anyone to understand what you mean. TTFN, WK
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
Untill that time comes you will be known as somebody without the slightest scientific acumen.
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Untill that time comes you will be known as somebody without the slightest scientific acumen. You forgot to mention the conceit...
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Taq Member Posts: 10388 Joined: Member Rating: 5.7 |
In view of your 'evidence' against i would like to make a question: In case that one or more researchers proved that nerous system does intervenes in evolution process and empathy has effect on genome, how would you call my"speculations" then? We want to see evidence, not fantasies.
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