Implied by YEC? Most science is faulty?

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since that discipline of science depends fundamentally on long periods of time to form much of the rock formations we see to day

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Mt. St. Helens has debunked (sp?) this school of thought. http://www.creationism.org/sthelens/wonders.htm

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Logical fallacy, punisher. Just because there are catstrophic occurrences does not mean that all phenomena are catastrophic.

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exactly; and not all rock formations take millions of years.

The point of the Mt. St. Helens reference was to show that geologic occurances once thought to take millions of years, in fact, do not need that much time with the right conditions. Petrification, river bed formations, multiple layers of fossil forest, etc. Let me try to simplfy it. You look at the Grand Canyon and say "little bit of water and a whole lot of time". I see the same canyon and say "a whole lot of water and a little bit of time". We don't throw out modern geology as implied in the original post; we merely make observations in the present to help us make 'guesses' about the past, as do evolutionists.------------------
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Originally posted by Quetzal:
Punisher: Just curious. What long geological processes is Mount St. Helens supposed to have disproved?

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Please see my last post. It didn't disprove anything; it simply showed us that once thought long processes in nature do not necesarily require that much time. Are you deliberately being obtuse?

I'm sorry Que; lets start over. Civility will get us much further.Layers of strata once thought to require millions of years to form only took days. Coal formation and fossil forests once thought to require long periods of time, given the right conditions, do not need millions of years. Once again, my reference to MSH was to explain that creationists do not need to abandon modern geology to form a hypothesis about the past as implied in the original post. http://pws.prserv.net/creation/Articles/CRYOUNG3.HTM (skip down to rapid formation)Bottom line is this, and I think it applies for all posts on this board. The two sides of this debate start with different presuppositions. Mine are as non-negotioable as yours. We will always arrive at different conclusions.

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Why do you ignore the fact that coral reefs take thousands of years to form?

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How is this a fact given that no one has been around for a thousand years to watch it form?

Both of your replies still require speculation. Please do not use phrases like "the fact that coral takes thousands of years", when in fact, we don't know for sure. I speculate that it doesn't grow overnight but may not take thousands of years. Maybe hundreds.Please tell me evolutionists have stronger arguments than to pass off "we have a pretty good idea" as fact.

Let me quote from your post just to make sure I didn't read it wrong."Why do you ignore the fact that coral reefs take thousands of years to form?"That is certainly not the same thing as "I said that a coral reef would take thousands of years to form."Maybe you should read your own posts more carefully.You implied that it is fact that coral takes thousands of years to form; I merely replied that you cannot know that and it is possible that it only takes hundreds. My 'have a good idea' response was directed at JM. Sorry for the confusion.

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And I replied that we have measured the rate of coral growth. To form the Great Barrier Reef was NOT a catastrophic event!

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Please provide data supporting your 'we have measured' assertion.

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why do you not address this issue? Will you admit that some geological events are not catastrophic?

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absolutely, not all geological events are castastrophic. And not all geological events take long periods of time.

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Thank you for admitting your carelessness.

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I wasn't careless; my post read 'both of your replies' indicating that I was replying to more that one response. I thought you would pick up on that; you didn't.Although exhausting, its been fun splitting hairs with you. I'm off for the weekend; ttyl.