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Niw
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Message 17 of 274 (62377)
10-23-2003 1:28 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Tsegamla
10-18-2003 11:52 AM


For some more differences... go to this site...
1. Becoming Human
2. Run the flash "BECOMING HUMAN The documentary"
3. Above it click on lineage
4. Below click on related exhibits.
5. click on exhibit 10. "a world of diversity"
[This message has been edited by Niw, 10-23-2003]

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Niw
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Message 19 of 274 (62536)
10-24-2003 6:25 AM
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10-23-2003 5:56 PM


I think we would need to look at the population and not idividual if we are using a morphological trait like height to make comparison.
First of all tall is relative. Secondly height including weight is not a good trait to use for comparison since it can be influenced by diet other than genetics.
Below would be a better way I think to describe it if we use the height trait.
Eg. The frequency of homo-sapien in population A being >1.7m is 90%. The frequency of homo-sapien in population B being >1.7m is 20%.
Cline
A gradual change in the frequency of a trait over a geographic area.
I think it is better if we look at trait that occur only in specific populations. Eg. Certain traits like certain hair/eye-color do not occur at all in certain populations.
AAPA Statement on Biological Aspects of Race
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Niw
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Message 20 of 274 (62537)
10-24-2003 6:28 AM
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10-23-2003 5:56 PM


Quote "The human features which have universal biological value for the survival of the species are not known to occur more frequently in one population than in any other. Therefore it is meaningless from the biological point of view to attribute a general inferiority or superiority to this or to that race."
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Niw
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Message 25 of 274 (62713)
10-25-2003 10:30 AM
Reply to: Message 24 by crashfrog
10-25-2003 3:43 AM


The question you're not addressing is: "Of what use is race"?
Wasn't addressing that... just addressing your use of only height as a trait mainly.
Race is pretty useless for classification in Scientific terms its value is more geographical,historical,cultural and social.
Different races or populations are more prone to various disease like cystic fibrosis, Sickle cell anemia, cancer all the way to Obesity due to diet/lifestyle and/or genetics. Different races also respond differently to certain drugs. The differance are in frequency in the population and not specific only to the race... They are specifically related more to family than race.
Researcher looking for a cure to a disease that occurs in higher frequency in a population(race?) won't that info be useful in some way?
As a businessman knowing a race likes/dislikes would also be useful as I can target my product specifically or the majority of them to make the most profit.
As a leader of a country knowing more about each of the races living in my country will be extremely useful to maintain harmony.
etc.
Knowing someone's "race" tells you absolutely nothing about them.
It tells me geographically where his ancestors came from... Its like a geographical marker...

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