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Author Topic:   Luke and Matthews geneologies
Quiz
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Message 164 of 168 (62539)
10-24-2003 7:13 AM
Reply to: Message 163 by Asgara
10-24-2003 4:55 AM


Ok
Ok Asgara,
quote:
You have to make up your mind. In a previous post you said that Mary's line is Joseph's also as they are cousins. Please give me the references to this claim. I am unaware of any genealogy claimed for Mary, let alone one coming from David and related to Joseph. The two genealogies in the NT referenced to Jesus' line are both descended from Jeconiah.
What I ment was both of the records containing genealogy(matt-luke) are the line of Joseph. I have heard that the Genealogy according to Luke' record is for Mary; But I dont support this as it is not scriptural. What is scriptural is that both genealogies according to both gospels (Matthew-Luke)are the line of Joseph. One being the line of the kings and another being the line of the direct descendents (father-son). I have searched through out the bible with a bible search wizard and I have found all the names in the list on Matthew to be kings at one time or another if you do the research you will also find the same(remember some of the names change slightly)
I also have done the same for the record kept in Luke and found it to be direct descendents from Adam to Jesus. I think there might be a few missing but for the most part that is what I have found. I can try to give you some reasources if you would like.
I have found a bible search at the LDS websight which could help you.
go to: Scriptures "for a timeline it is not the one I used but it should help some" and also go to: Scriptures "this last one I posted is the search engine but it also not the one I used; as the one I use I paid for and it is a program which actually changes the names for me.
You may want to check my previouse post messege 136 or you can just go to the kjv of the bible located at Bible Search and Study Tools - Blue Letter Bible and locate the book of Luke chapter 1:23-32.) Make sure you catch what 32 says:
"He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:"
Now also keep in mind that Mary is the mother of Jesus and I ask how else would King David be the father of Jesus if it were not for Mary; as Joseph didn't have intercourse with Mary. Of course that is an assumption and I could be wrong but it does make since. And I believe that would be scriptural. Also note that if Mary is a desc, from King David as I am pointing out that makes Joseph and Mary cousins. (that's where I am getting the cousin thing from)
I hope this helps
-Quiz

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Quiz
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Message 165 of 168 (62540)
10-24-2003 7:18 AM
Reply to: Message 162 by helena
10-24-2003 4:53 AM


Re: Getting closer...
I see your point. What I mean is the Prophet does the translation and he then appends it to the bible. This way it makes the bible Authentic. You can check this out it might help you understand what I mean.
1. Scriptures
2. Scriptures
1 - this is the literal translation done by a person I believe to be a prophet. His name is Joseph Smith. He not only has prophecies which came to pass but also claims that Jesus is the messiah. Both of those are the 2 major requirments for a prophet in my opinion. Thus making him a prophet.
I hope this helps
-Quiz

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