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Topic: Existence
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fearandloathing
Member (Idle past 4171 days) Posts: 990 From: Burlington, NC, USA Joined: 02-24-2011
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Message 838 of 1229 (625518)
07-23-2011 3:26 PM
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Reply to: Message 837 by ICANT
07-23-2011 3:13 PM
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Re: Modified Cycle clock
Hi ICANT, been a while since I have felt like asking you anything. Please explain to me why you feel like light behaves differently than say...anything you drop in a moving vehicle? If you are moving down the road in a car and you drop a peanut it appears to you, sitting in the car, to fall straight down. we know this is only true for you in the car, to a stationary observer outside the car the nut would fall at an angle, correct?? The nut would have the forward movement of the car plus the pull of gravity, right? Why would light act any different? Details please. Edited by fearandloathing, : spelling of angle from angel...lol Edited by fearandloathing, : movement of gravity changed to pull of gravity Edited by fearandloathing, : No reason given.
"No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten." Hunter S. Thompson Ad astra per aspera Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.
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fearandloathing
Member (Idle past 4171 days) Posts: 990 From: Burlington, NC, USA Joined: 02-24-2011
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Message 839 of 1229 (625520)
07-23-2011 3:59 PM
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Reply to: Message 837 by ICANT
07-23-2011 3:13 PM
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Re: Modified Cycle clock
Hi again, In other post you have said you can't see the beam of your laser, I will buy and send you a green laser if you will record your experiment on webcam ect... for us to review. With a green laser you can see the beam so maybe you can show us where we are wrong.
"No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten." Hunter S. Thompson Ad astra per aspera Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.
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fearandloathing
Member (Idle past 4171 days) Posts: 990 From: Burlington, NC, USA Joined: 02-24-2011
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Message 841 of 1229 (625531)
07-23-2011 8:19 PM
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Reply to: Message 840 by DBlevins
07-23-2011 6:10 PM
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Re: Modified Cycle clock
the reason you can see the beam in that particular picture is because of scattering from air particles. In a vacuum, there would be no scattering, so the "laser" light could not be seen when viewed from the side. Yes I understand this. but ICANT has stated he cant see the beam in his home experiments, nothing to do with our thought experiment, just more of his version of the gish gallop. Edited by fearandloathing, : No reason given.
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fearandloathing
Member (Idle past 4171 days) Posts: 990 From: Burlington, NC, USA Joined: 02-24-2011
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Message 858 of 1229 (625730)
07-25-2011 10:40 AM
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Reply to: Message 847 by ICANT
07-24-2011 2:38 PM
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Re: Modified Cycle clock
Hi,
The pulse is dragged sideways as it makes its journey between the mirrors. This dragging is caused by the forward motion of the cycle relative to the Earth and PlanetX. You seem to be on the verge of enlightenment, so let me ask if the pulse is moving up and down and dragged forward how could the path it takes not be longer than 1 meter? It really is just simple geometry as has been pointed out previously by many others.
ICANT writes: Hi fearandloathing,
fearandloathing writes:
Please explain to me why you feel like light behaves differently than say...anything you drop in a moving vehicle? The pulse released from the pen on my cycle is in an open clock, the same as the one from the car. The pulse is released in a vacuum. It is not released inside of anything, other than a vacuum. The only one that is in a vacuum tube is the one NoNukes and I are discussing. God Bless, If there is an answer to my question in there I don't see it. Would you like to try again?
"No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten." Hunter S. Thompson Ad astra per aspera Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.
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fearandloathing
Member (Idle past 4171 days) Posts: 990 From: Burlington, NC, USA Joined: 02-24-2011
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Message 907 of 1229 (626522)
07-29-2011 5:02 PM
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Reply to: Message 905 by ICANT
07-29-2011 4:53 PM
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Re: ICANT on inertial reference frames
Um...but you said...
The pulse is dragged sideways as it makes its journey between the mirrors. This dragging is caused by the forward motion of the cycle relative to the Earth and PlanetX.
Message 847 How can this be when now you say...
Also since the car is traveling at 0.5 c horizontaly relative to the Salt Lake Flats and the Pulse is traveling at zero horizontaly to the Salt Lake Flats and is traveling c verticle at a 90 angle relative to the Salt Lake Flats Which is it?? You cant have it both ways??
"No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten." Hunter S. Thompson Ad astra per aspera Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.
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fearandloathing
Member (Idle past 4171 days) Posts: 990 From: Burlington, NC, USA Joined: 02-24-2011
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Message 960 of 1229 (627939)
08-05-2011 1:32 PM
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Reply to: Message 958 by Taq
08-05-2011 1:25 PM
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Re: ICANT on inertial reference frames
I think ICANT doesn't properly understands the difference from the salt flats frame and the frame of the car? In one frame it is the car moving, in the other it is the salt flats.
"No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten." Hunter S. Thompson Ad astra per aspera Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.
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fearandloathing
Member (Idle past 4171 days) Posts: 990 From: Burlington, NC, USA Joined: 02-24-2011
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Message 1095 of 1229 (630125)
08-22-2011 3:22 PM
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Reply to: Message 1094 by Taq
08-22-2011 3:17 PM
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"No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten." Hunter S. Thompson Ad astra per aspera Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.
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