Group of atheists has filed a lawsuit

'10,000' throng to stop Ground Zero mosque
Are they whining bitches too? I'm sure you would have protested and signed a petition to stop the mosque being built too.

You didn't read Modulus' post, did you?

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The September 11 Memorial and Museum will be on a site owned by the
Port Authority. Thus, the Memorial and Museum and its exhibits are a
government action.

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The September 11 Memorial and Museum will be largely funded with
money from the government. Accordingly, actions taken by the September
11 Memorial and Museum also constitute governmental action.

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From Mod's Message 11:

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Plaintiff American Atheists opposed inclusion of a cross on the grounds
that other religious groups were not given the opportunity for a similar faithbased
memorial at the site of an American tragedy.

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On multiple occasions, plaintiff American Atheists publicly offered to
provide a memorial for the September 11 Memorial and Museum, at its own
cost, to represent the approximately 500 non-religious victims of the attack
on the World Trade Center.
Plaintiff American Atheists never received a response.

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No other religious or non-religious group has been permitted a
memorial.

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Of course not: you're religious and of the same religion in question. Of course not: you're religious and your religion is one of the popular/accepted ones in the country.Do you think other people of different/non religions feel the same way? Apparently not. But that's ok. As long as christians get their way, everyone else should just shut up, right?

You just can't help but call people names, can you? How old are you? Oh? So you're an atheist now? Might want to change the name to "Atheist Scientist" then. And that's your opinion.....The simple fact of the matter is is that they are using a religious symbol to honor the people who died. There are people who are offended by that symbol (myself included). The government should not have a stake in putting up religious symbols. If you don't care, that's fine (that's what great about this country: you can voice your opinion). But if you want religious symbols put up, they NEED to be privately funded.Edited by hooah212002, : No reason given.Edited by hooah212002, : No reason given.

As a christian, is a star of david or a crescent moon "spiritually comforting" to you in any aspect?

A number of non-christians have spoken out that they do not find any comfort from this symbol.The cross is a symbol of xianity. The only people who would find any significance from a cross are christians.Saying it is a spiritual symbol and not a religious one is ludicrous. Does any other spiritual group of people find spiritual anything in the cross? It is "spiritual" for christians.I ask again: do you, as a self defined christian, find spiritual comfort in the star of david or crescent moon? A simple yes or no will suffice. That word...I don't think it means what you think it means.....

If your religion was only as important to you as what flavor ice cream you like, why hold it so dear to you or at all? I am quite certain that a large number of other people are a bit more serious about their choice of deity and how they get their "spiritual comfort". Perhaps you could name another group, then, that does find any spiritual anything in the cross? On the contrary. Everyone but you sees the cross as an inherantly religious symbol. Using said symbol to memoralize anyone does an extreme disservice to those who do not follow that faith or "spirituality". Yea, the christian ones. What about the other people?

It was to point out that the cross is only comforting to christians. Chrisitans would normally not find spiritual reprieve in the symbol of a different faith. Yes, CS, I was. This is all a big game I play. It's called a response. It was in response to you likening your faith to ice cream. Where did I say it had to be? I asked you to name a group of people who find spiritual anything in the cross. the point is is that the only group that comes to mind are christians. If you know if a different group, now would be a great time to mention it..... At the same time we CAN name groups of people who DO NOT find spiritual anything in the cross AND groups of people that take offense to it. I never said they weren't. It's just that the only people who DO find spiritual comfort/guidance/whatever in the cross ARE CHRISTIANS. Whether they be weekend warriors or fundamentalists. So they claim. But it is odd they don't allow any other symbol...... See, here is the thing. Some people actually give a shit. So much so that they debate the issues. These people are not the typoe of people who liken their faith, or lack thereof, to flavors of ice cream. I know YOU don't care, but there are people who do not want to be represented by christianity. Of course there could be. It's just that there doesn't seem to be.

If their money goes toward the funding of it, they sure do.

Since the museum is funded by the government and is not using pieces representative of every faith (I don't see a spaghetti bowl, light saber or Vishnu shrine), then yes, it should remain completely secular.From the OP's link (as much as I hate using faux news)...:

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The National September 11 Memorial and Museum at the World Trade Center Foundation, Inc., is exempt from federal income tax. The organization's revenue in 2010 totaled nearly $90 million, of which $70 million was provided by government grants.

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I'm not entirely sure and it is not on topic.....

If they are going to represent people of all faiths and those of no faith, then yes, I am completely ok with it.It is not that I do not recognize that some individuals find or found these steel girters "spiritually comforting", it's that it is only this piece (so far) that is being enshrined in a memorial of all the people who died.

Whoa whoa whoa, wait a minute.....I thought the structure had no religious value or implication and was just something that "provided spiritual comfort"?

Well, obviously those people that said those things aren't real christians.....