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Artemis Entreri ![]() Suspended Member (Idle past 4549 days) Posts: 1194 From: Northern Virginia Joined:
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hooah writes: Are they whining bitches too? Yes.
I'm sure you would have protested and signed a petition to stop the mosque being built too. As always your assumptions are way off.
fearandloathing writes: I made a quick decision based on less than all the facts, I have said I think I was wrong initially. What is to discuss?? Are you accusing me of being a troll? What is wrong with changing ones mind based on more, or, further interpretation of the available facts? Dang simmer down. If I was accusing you of something it would looke like this: you are a x. I never said there was anything wrong with it, if you notice I said that is fine, meaning it’s okay to switch sides. Why are you so defensive? Jeeze Edited by Artemis Entreri, : No reason given.
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fearandloathing Member (Idle past 4465 days) Posts: 990 From: Burlington, NC, USA Joined: |
Why are you so defensive? Probably cuase once again I have stuck my foot in my mouth.. ![]() "No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten." Hunter S. Thompson Ad astra per aspera Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.
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Taq Member Posts: 10385 Joined: Member Rating: 5.8 |
I can't imagine what the atheists seek to gain from suing anyone for putting up a cross. Any religion should be free to put up their icons as well. Wheres the beef?
My own community had a similar situation. There was a Ten Commandments display in a public park. None of the atheists in the community, including myself, had a problem with it. Then came the crazy people. They wanted to put up a plaque which Matthew Shepard's picture on it (the homosexual kid who was killed because of his homosexuality) and a verse from the Bible stating how homosexuality was evil. It was a completely disgusting display. Even worse, due to the openness that you state above, they had every right to erect the plaque in the park. Instead of allowing this, the city decided to move the Ten Commandments display out of the public park and ban all religious material from the park.
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Larni Member (Idle past 174 days) Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
Seems pretty unfair to only allow xians to put up an icon.
Seems the beef has been found.
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Dr Adequate Member Posts: 16113 Joined:
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its still frivolous garbage It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. We hold this prudent jealousy to be the first duty of citizens, and one of the noblest characteristics of the late Revolution. The freemen of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. They saw all the consequences in the principle, and they avoided the consequences by denying the principle. We revere this lesson too much, soon to forget it. Who does not see that the same authority which can establish Christianity, in exclusion of all other Religions, may establish with the same ease any particular sect of Christians, in exclusion of all other Sects? That the same authority which can force a citizen to contribute three pence only of his property for the support of any one establishment, may force him to conform to any other establishment in all cases whatsoever?
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Artemis Entreri ![]() Suspended Member (Idle past 4549 days) Posts: 1194 From: Northern Virginia Joined:
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why quote James Madison without giving him credit?
this is hardly government support religion, its a memorial, and these people are nothing more than shit disturbers, they remind me of the westboro baptists.
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 1122 days) Posts: 3193 Joined: |
You didn't read Modulus' post, did you?
quote: quote: "Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square
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Taq Member Posts: 10385 Joined: Member Rating: 5.8 |
Seems pretty unfair to only allow xians to put up an icon. Frankly, I could care less. If christians need an idol to worship in order to feel better about themselves then go for it. What really bothers me is the hypocracy. Remember the mosque that was being built near "Ground Zero"? If christians want the benefit of religious tolerance they should try to exercise it first.
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Dr Adequate Member Posts: 16113 Joined: |
why quote James Madison without giving him credit? Anyone who didn't recognize the Memorial And Remonstrance could look it up.
this is hardly government support religion "Hardly" government support of religion? Is that like being not very pregnant?
its a memorial Specifically, a Christian memorial.
and these people are nothing more than shit disturbers, The people who wanted to build a big cross on what is effectively the grave of many Jews and atheists and Muslims were shit disturbers. And this is the shit that they have disturbed.
they remind me of the westboro baptists. And to do you justice, you couldn't have come up with a more ridiculously inept comparison if you'd tried with both hands for a week. The WBC are the people who wave signs saying "God Hates America" at the graves of patriots, aren't they? Which is different how from building a cross on the grave of a Jew? True, the cross is more permanent, but I don't see how this palliates the offense.
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2813 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
this is hardly government support religion Is it an icon for one particular religion? yes.Is it in a public park owned by and maintained by the government which is paid for by the people? yes. That's government supported religion.
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Taq Member Posts: 10385 Joined: Member Rating: 5.8 |
Is it an icon for one particular religion? yes. Is it in a public park owned by and maintained by the government which is paid for by the people? yes. That's government supported religion. If my constitutional knowledge is accurate, this would only be the case if they only allowed christian iconography in a public space, or only subsidized christian monuments.
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2813 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined:
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If my constitutional knowledge is accurate, this would only be the case if they only allowed christian iconography in a public space, or only subsidized christian monuments. NYC is densely populated. A block or two away might as well be a different town. Yet, there was a huge uproar when Muslims wanted to build a mosque 3-4 blocks away. You HONESTLY think that it won't be a problem getting a monument with an Islamic symbol erected at ground zero?
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8711 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
If my constitutional knowledge is accurate, this would only be the case if they only allowed christian iconography in a public space, or only subsidized christian monuments. Which is the case here is it not?
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Is it? Where have the others been disallowed?
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8711 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
Where have the others been disallowed? Are any other symbols displayed on that site? Why not?
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