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Phat
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Message 11 of 25 (626177)
07-27-2011 3:36 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by GDR
07-27-2011 1:45 PM


Default wont happen
Think about it, though. Which group of people...(in general) republicans or democrats...would be most affected by a default?
What possible benefit could be gained by playing chicken on a two lane highway?

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Phat
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Message 17 of 25 (626413)
07-29-2011 9:14 AM
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07-28-2011 2:40 AM


The problem is human nature itself
Jon writes:
Thus the problem:
The pugs (= rich) have nothing to lose from playing their games (except seats, which is two years off and thus far beyond the four day memory span of the American public) and everything to gain (tax breaks for the rich).
The dems (= rich) also have nothing to lose from playing their games; they aren't a majority and needn't worry about taking blame for the fallout. What do they gain? They either get their way now or get to watch a lot of pugs go home in a couple of years and get double their way then.
Other than some feigned concern for the general welfare of the American people, there's no reason for either party to take this matter seriously.
So they don't.
f what you are suggesting is true, there is little hope for humanity in general
I would almost lean towards original sin...after all, how do we get corrupt?
human nature seems to lean towards selfishness
thus all politicians are selfish and as you say, pansies who wont take a bullet for the team
the wealthy also appear to be selfish
and I have seen daily examples of selfish poor people as well.

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Phat
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Message 19 of 25 (626417)
07-29-2011 10:26 AM
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07-29-2011 10:17 AM


Re: The problem is human nature itself
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Then the answer is to fix human nature.
What changes would you recommend we make?
Its easy to get all noble and altruistic and suggest that we love one another and slay all selfish and self serving thoughts. Reality, however, suggests that this is easier said than done.
I don't try to hurt other people. I just want to make sure that I am taken care of. I have no one to care for me aside from myself. Ironically, I worry too much about what others do. How much they make, and how wealthy they are relative to me...yet I neglect actually taking care of myself.
The United States is the same way. The wealthy folks are only worried about their legacy and their heirs. They don't mean to screw up the country. They just don't want to have to be responsible for it. They have their own families. We need to unite as a country. I need to unite as an individual and stop being so schizophrenic.

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