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Larni
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Message 762 of 1273 (543935)
01-22-2010 4:52 AM
Reply to: Message 755 by Smooth Operator
01-21-2010 10:18 PM


Re: Genetic Entropy[quote]On the 649th post of this thread you refer to a link that m
And no, natural selection does not weed them out effectively, because there is noise that interferes with the selection.
Yes it does because most bad mutations are fatal. Neutral and positive oones don't count for obvious reasons.
When a certain sequence mutates too much, it loses it's function
And the organism dies before it can reproduce, removing it from the gene pool. thus the mutation is not conserved.

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Larni
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Message 765 of 1273 (543947)
01-22-2010 8:20 AM
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01-22-2010 7:57 AM


Re: Genetic Entropy[quote]On the 649th post of this thread you refer to a link that m
When I said bad I meant fatal before breeding but I appreciate the way I phrased it did not make clear.
I have always thought of non fatal mutations as neutral but I see that this view is not particularly useful in this case.
You're probably right with your point on robustness (or at least it seems likely to me).

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Larni
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Message 808 of 1273 (544169)
01-24-2010 12:41 PM
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01-24-2010 12:20 PM


Re: Genetic Entropy[quote]On the 649th post of this thread you refer to a link that m
So the process continues untill a population goes extinct.
While I'm sympathetic to the view that some changes in the genes are not 'recognised' by NS I can't help but wonder about ancient lineages such as crocodiles: they are immune to this 'genetic entropy?

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Larni
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Message 1258 of 1273 (626779)
07-31-2011 10:12 AM
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07-31-2011 9:47 AM


Re: A simple question...
which does not appear plausable as random
Argument from incredulity. So what you are basically saying is "I can't imagine this being natural; therefor design".
Would you also care to respond to the topic I created so you could support your idea of genesis being 'aligned' with science?
Or do you concede that you were and are wrong?

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