Information's role in evolution.Should we put it more in the picture?

Thanks Shadow71.

I suppose you mean the definition of information. I think i had given it.
information: anything it comes to the senses from outer and inner world. Lack of food, chemicals, light,sound, sense of danger,inability, ect. It is the same, i suppose, meaning you give in the word in message 133. The same as Shapiro gives it in his work " the 21st evolution theory" based on computational binary system.Edited by zi ko, : No reason given.

You didn't say if light s ghange in direction passing through crystal if it is random or not . I think it isn't random as regards crystal.So bacround mutations and more so those enhanced in rate are not random as regards to fitness ,or more appropriatly i think ,as regards to life. These mutations happen because they are useful to life. They are directed by life to serve life. This a FACT.

How do you define "information" in message 133?
I don't think your talk is incoherent.WIKIPEDIA
"Information in its most restricted technical sense is an ordered sequence of symbols that record or transmit a message. It can be recorded as signs, or conveyed as signals by waves. Information is any kind of event that affects the state of a dynamic system.""As sensory inputOften information is viewed as a type of input to an organism or system. Inputs are of two kinds. Some inputs are important to the function of the organism (for example, food) or system (energy) by themselves. In his book Sensory Ecology, Dusenbery called these causal inputs. Other inputs (information) are important only because they are associated with causal inputs and can be used to predict the occurrence of a causal input at a later time (and perhaps another place). Some information is important because of association with other information but eventually there must be a connection to a causal input. In practice, information is usually carried by weak stimuli that must be detected by specialized sensory systems and amplified by energy inputs before they can be functional to the organism or system. For example, light is often a causal input to plants but provides information to animals. The colored light reflected from a flower is too weak to do much photosynthetic work but the visual system of the bee detects it and the bee's nervous system uses the information to guide the bee to the flower, where the bee often finds nectar or pollen, which are causal inputs, serving a nutritional function."

Empathy is a type of information and a special one, as it is always fortified with emotion under stress, it actsts over long periods ( maybe thousands or millions of years) over the same subject and so it is the most propable of all types of information to act on genome.(http://www.sleepgadgetabs.com)

You hahave misunderstood me. Same "subject" i mean same theme, senario.When prey's speed is less than that of predator's, empathy stress of wathing simblings and other members of species, triggers the mechanism of appropriate changes in genome and phenotype. This senario is repeated thousand times over thousand years. That is why empathy is a special type of information process. Empathy as atype of information has the same mechanism on affecting genome as other information staff does, as Shapiro has shown.

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Your BELIEF in dogmas is admirable. But isn't time to move on a bit further and start to question things?

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DNA repair mechanisms are a re-occurring topic here at Evolution, News, and Views because scientists are constantly uncovering layers of complexity and integration within the DNA repair system that seem to defy any notions of having developed by a random, step-by-step process. DNA repair systems behave as if a command center has notified the cell of damage to DNA, and then the cell dispatches the appropriate units for the particular job at a particular location. So not only is the "double strand" team or the "nucleotide replacement" team dispatched when needed, but the team that would be the most efficient job for the particular cause of damage is dispatched. Another way to think of it is a basketball coach who knows exactly what player to put in not only for a particular play, but against a particular opponent"If this is the case and empathy as it is known transfers mainly stress, is it dificult to understand the importance of empathy to evolution?Edited by zi ko, : No reason given.

I am talking about animal empathy role in helping them in their strugle to survive. Animals not bother so much about beuty, loneliness or concentration. This type of information does not relate as directly to survival as loss of food, danger, theatening physical environmental changes. This is the main type of information which is transferred to genome.Edited by zi ko, : No reason given.

This remark shows how much you have misunderstood me.
Empathy is a hard wired mechanism in neural system. It can transfer any information animal itself feels necessary and mainly what it useful for his survival. It it isn't for us to decide what this information will it be. It could be loneniless.

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As it is just an argument we can continue our conversation. Don't forget that empathy is a hard wired mechanism in neural system. And as you know this must mean something, as nature doesn't make useless things.

The rodents of Frans DE WAAL do they have theory of nind?

I quote from Mind Matters. introduction by David Dobbs.Emory University primatologist Frans de Waal and University of Chicago neurobiologist Peggy Mason, review both the history of animal studies of empathy and a particularly thought-provoking recent mouse study from the McGill University lab of Jeffrey Mogil. As de Waal and Mason note, this clever study holds surprises about both the baseline and the limitations of empathy in these small, "simple" rodents. One can't

As I am not the apropriate person to describe such a mechanism
I quote from Shapiro:
"The second major aspect of evolutionary change by natural genetic engineering is that it generally takes place after an activating event which produces what McClintock called a 'genome shock' [160] . Activating events include loss of food [18] , infection and interspecific hybridization (Tables 3 and 4) " Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Put space after ":" in subtitle to get rid of smilie.

It increases mutation rate; in nature nothing is random relating life. This randomness serves life percerverance.Edited by zi ko, : No reason given.Edited by zi ko, : No reason given.