Is God evil?

The question is who definies good and evil? The answer is society. Hence God may be evil in the eyes of a Luciferian society.Lucifer is a slanderer, not obvious open iles but distortions of the truth and disinformation. The concept of democracy being good is dependent on adequate education for voting to be informed. Otherwise, democracy is bad in an uneducated, brainwashed society.I think that the election of GWB should prove which side of good and evil modern democracy has fallen.If we go back to the Lucifer story, his intention was not to destroy the Earth but create a paradise just like God wanted to. He arrogantly thought that God's way of doing it was wrong and that he knew better.The big question appears to come down to a simple old saying, the ends justify the means. If God sees the future, then this must be true for any divine plan.And that is simply where our morality, including new christian morality, diverges from God. We now focus entirely on the mechanisms of change being good and unfortunately that inevitably leads to evil results, the opposite of what was anticipated.This is the Luciferian connundrum that we face in deciding what is good and evil.Edited by Doctor Witch, : No reason given.

There appear to be as many opinions as to what Lucifer refers to as people who mention the name, including several planets.I should have mentioned that I was referring to the traditional biblical concept of Lucifer, which is commonly taken as the embodiment of evil in a Judeo-Christian based society.

I would be quite happy to provide empirical evidence for the inadequacy of modern society knowing the difference between good and evil, particularly in its own incompetent actions. It is based on immediate self gratification of a subjective world view rather than long term objective results. Of course, that leads to disasters....Should I mention the economy as empirical data of the ethical and practical failure of all society?

The title of this thread is 'Is God evil?'In that context it is perfectly legitimate to use the name Lucifer as a concept that embodies Judeo-Christian concepts of evil.I respect the founding law of academia that defines what is science and what is not. This thread is a part of the intangible and immeasureable worlds that science and its requirement for empirical data has no right to interfere in. They are the realms of philosophy, theology and even clinical psychology.You are obviously a reductionist who has gazed into a crystal ball to discover that science will know everything with the current tools and concepts. That in itself is an amusing anachronism born of irrationality, wishful thinking and subjectivity.I would be happy with the statement that Lucifer only exists in the mind or in dreams. As such, and on the other side of the Cartesian fence, there is no requirement for empirical evidence and the only possible evidence is of witness reports of which there are many. I shall consider those reports with objective, analytical logic as prescribed.Under those terms, I must conclude that there is a conceptual archetype that goes under the name Lucifer that has an important influence on many human minds and cannot be discounted. My conclusion is that Lucifer represents blind, uninformed human egoism. Edited by AdminPD, : Warning

I too had heard of this early Gnostic belief, basically that God had created the world, realised his mistake and been trying to disown responsibility ever since. On exploring modern Gnosticism I discovered many other versions.In many ways, the concept of a God that would intervene in individual, mundane affairs for the sake those who pray is a modern concept in Christianity. Old Christianity was built on God Time, not questioning the Divine Mystery of why the world is how it is and even being blissful and thankful for experiencing life. The only rewards that you would receive were in the afterlife.I guess it was competition with science in the Age of Enlightenment that changed all that. This is really when Christianity seems to have fragmented into being what ever you want it to mean and following society's subjective demands rather than objective theology.An example was the complaints on the death of JPII for not conforming to societal beliefs about promiscuity and homosexuality, thus blaming him for the spread of AIDS. They wanted God's word and standards to be changed because they did not like what God said. Of course, it did not enter their minds that following the no sex before marriage and no sex outside marriage would have had quite a significant impact on HIV.This is why the Catholic Church did not want the Bible translated but to remain in the hands of those that were theologically trained. Every part of the Bible must be seen in its overall context rather than taking one bit and leaving another. Single quotations are taken completely out of context and distorted.This is what we see in the modern world of Christianity. The Vatican actually believes in Evolutionary Theory! It does not intrude into the realm of science. All of the conflict is with those who start up their own little Churches without adequate academic theological training.The worst case I have heard of this is a female friend whose Christian boyfriend tried to convince her that whilst vaginal sex before marriage was a terrible sin, anal sex was okay according to the Bible.I have lived in Mexico and there Catholicism is further from Western Catholicism than you would imagine. It has less to do with Western Catholicism than official Chuch of England and other mainstream European derived and controlled Protestant Faiths. They can pray to St Simon, a Guatemalan black magician for curses on theeir enemies. They can pray to St Death, who seems to have roots in African voodoo, then stick needles into the genitals of a doll of their spouse to keep them faithful. There are entire churches dedicated to its worship. And there are supposedly Catholic Churches where they openly perform animal sacrifice.Christianity is out of control. It bears little or no resemblance to what it was. There were a lot of things right about Christianity but most of them have been lost in many allegedly Christian beliefs. Instead, it has become democratically controlled by the lowest common denominator of society for the sake of societal power so that everybody can believe what they want to believe. Society believes in egoism and many Christians believe that God should be their obedient pet or forgiving servant so long as they go to church on Sunday.The original Christian concept of God is evil by modern 'Christian' standards of expectation. Perhaps that is why the Book of Revelations says that God is coming for them, and not in a good way. It says that Christians are first on the list for His fireballs.